Why a BR scope level?

[earlcurtis67]

I attended a 600 yd BR gong match a while ago and noticed some of the rifles had scope levels, If ur rest was level and the scope is perpendicular to the stock then what is the need for the level?
These were flat fore end BR stocked rifles riding in Farley and SEB style rests.
Thanks. E

 

[mac86951]

Extra insurance? Is it really level if you don't measure it? Bit of a Schroedinger's cat dilemma...

 

[mac86951]

Extra insurance? Is it really level if you don't measure it? Bit of a Schroedinger's cat dilemma...

 

[Uthink Uknow]

Beats me, Earl. The crosshairs on the horizon should tell what is level, even if the horizon isn't level. Now some guy who uses one will respond with a differing opinion.

Posting twice doesn't count as two against one.

 

[bobinpa]

Take your gun and put it in a gun vice. Then put a small level on top of the top scope turret and move the gun left and right to see how little you have to move the gun to be out of level. At 600 yards plus it only takes a minimal amount to be left or right if your gun isn't perfectly level.

 

[bobinpa]

The next trick is to mount the scope and scope level, perfectly level with the bore and action. You can make your crosshairs perfectly level with the horizon but it's does you no good unless your crosshairs are leveled to the action.

 

[thekriebles]

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/brain-teaser-for-the-day.3834643/

 

[timeout]

Extra insurance? Is it really level if you don't measure it? Bit of a Schroedinger's cat dilemma...

IMHO they are an absolute must have for accuracy. Then again, I'm not an award winning BR shooter, so take my free advice FWIW!

 

[joshb]

I have always wondered why the scope and ring manufacturers can't/won't mark top dead center. Seems like a line on the top of the scope would be fairly cheap to do.

 

[bobinpa]

I have always wondered why the scope and ring manufacturers can't/won't mark top dead center. Seems like a line on the top of the scope would be fairly cheap to do.

I couldn't agree more.......I have had this thought for years. I have even tried to think of a way to do it myself, but I just don't have the tooling to be precise enough. A simple index mark on the scope tube and ring cap would be fantastic.

 

[Joe Salt]

I ALWAYS FIGURED IF EVERYTHING LINES UP YOUR CLICKS WILL BE STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN AND HORIZONTAL. That sure helps at long range.

Joe Salt

 

[bobinpa]

I don't know if I'm first but at least I asked for it......

 

[Joe Salt]

Another trick is to hang a plumbeob on the target.

Joe Salt

 

[savagedasher]

I attended a 600 yd BR gong match a while ago and noticed some of the rifles had scope levels, If ur rest was level and the scope is perpendicular to the stock then what is the need for the level?
These were flat fore end BR stocked rifles riding in Farley and SEB style rests.
Thanks. E

For a gun to shoot in the same spot your scope must be aimed in the same spot . A level will show if the is vertical from shot to shot .
Many of ways to to do it I like doing it off the scope base. Larry

 

[earlcurtis67]

Thanks for the replays, I didn't realize there would be that much deviation in the bag. And I'm still trying to figure out who that Shrodenger fella is and why he would have a cat in the first place?

 

[joshb]

Me too! And how is the cat getting into bheadboy's house and peeing on his brass?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

The scope does not need to be level to the rifle. It does need to be level to the earth. My eyes can detect when the cross hair isnt level better than when a bubble isnt centered.

 

[savagedasher]

The scope does not need to be level to the rifle. It does need to be level to the earth. My eyes can detect when the cross hair isnt level better than when a bubble isnt centered.

Not everyone can so that's why they use it .
Larry

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Unless its a precision machinist level its not worth a sh$t. Those cheap bubble levels are pretty bad.

 

[Tommie]

I can guess why Leupold won't put a TDC mark on the scope body: it would demonstrate how badly the crosshairs are canted to one side.