Wet Moly coating

[scpaul]

Thanks for the response Willy. I've been in the lowcontry quite a bit and I understand about the water, although some is better than the other (different filtration I guess). Not knowing too much about the wet process I didn't want to screw up again. I was really disappointed with the dry method. Thanks again, Paul

 

[Conrad]

What kind of results are people getting regarding number of shots between cleaning, ES/SD, and any concerns of moly build up? Or was the dreaded ring more of a wax issue?

Let's compare this to the old dry moly method as well as to hBN.

When I have some time I may grab a semi used barrel laying around and try to do some testing.

Thanks.
Conrad

 

[heymarine1833]

switched to HBN 6 months ago and like the results a lot better than moly. it seems just as effective if not more so than moly. got my last tub from www.bulletcoatings.com

 

[Terry]

What kind of results are people getting regarding number of shots between cleaning, ES/SD, and any concerns of moly build up? Or was the dreaded ring more of a wax issue?

Let's compare this to the old dry moly method as well as to hBN.

When I have some time I may grab a semi used barrel laying around and try to do some testing.

Thanks.
Conrad

I shoot two day matches without cleaning(160 rounds). Don't use wax. ES/SD don't change with/without Moly.

 

[ericbc7]

Has anyone tried applying HBN using this wet method?

 

[hedditch]

I did. Couldn't get it to work. Moly, on the other hand, I got the same results as others, beautifully covered bullets. Dave

 

[Pete B]

I have used HBN before and have only had it sit on the surface of the projectile and the "wet" moly does seem to have bonded to the projectiles surface. Has anyone tried HBN over moly???

 

[mikegaiz]

Not to make any one mad, : but this is not a "WET HBN post. Why don't you HBN users get another post going? You could call it "The Wet HBN Process" If you don't like molly, don't use it. As for WET Molly, I have found 1 lbs. Hodgen powder bottles to work great for coating in my tumbler with the wet method. I have shoot dry molly for a LOOOOONG TIME and just switched to Wet, GREAT results. I was wondering, Has anyone notices a need to change the load when going from dry to the wet process? Getting ready to load for a varmint trip and wondering if I need to rework my loads now using the wet process?

 

[Jefferson]

Not to make any one mad, : but this is not a "WET HBN post. Why don't you HBN users get another post going? You could call it "The Wet HBN Process" If you don't like molly, don't use it. As for WET Molly, I have found 1 lbs. Hodgen powder bottles to work great for coating in my tumbler with the wet method. have shoot dry molly foe a LOOOOONG TIME and just switched to Wet, GREAT results. I was wondering, Has anyone notices a need to change the load when going from dry to the wet process? Getting ready to load for a varmint trip and wondering if I need to rework my loads now using the wet process?

good post and good question i wonder the same

Jefferson

 

[Immike]

Not to make any one mad, : but this is not a "WET HBN post. Why don't you HBN users get another post going? You could call it "The Wet HBN Process" If you don't like molly, don't use it. As for WET Molly, I have found 1 lbs. Hodgen powder bottles to work great for coating in my tumbler with the wet method. have shoot dry molly foe a LOOOOONG TIME and just switched to Wet, GREAT results. I was wondering, Has anyone notices a need to change the load when going from dry to the wet process? Getting ready to load for a varmint trip and wondering if I need to rework my loads now using the wet process?

good post and good question i wonder the same

Jefferson

I think a chronograph test would answer that question. The wet is much more durable on the bullet so I would expect less pressure. I switched over some time ago but was switching barrels at the same time.

 

[mikegaiz]

I agree, but it is 20 Degrees and I am loading for a hot summer day. Do not have a climate controlled range at present. There must be someone out there that also just switched to the wet process and is shooting the same barrel and bullet combo that could have shoot and see something? ???

 

[Trevor60]

I would be one of those people.

I switched mid season last year with no change in velocity. i don't have access to a pressure trace gauge to confirm pressure but their was no change in speed as chronographed nor was there a change in elevation from 300 to 900m.

Bullets are definitely slipperier to the touch but it did not translate on paper.

I did notice a notable difference when cleaning the barrel (dry process visible appearance on patches) (wet process very little moly residue on patches)

My processing time is the same per batch of 210 bullets (200 hybrids) 105 in each bottle dry 4hrs - wet 4 hrs. I have reduced the time to as little as 2 1/2 hours but some times i can still see a little ring around the transition from Bearing surface to boattail. I feel more comfortable with 4 hrs.

I do note the amount of moly i use per sessions is more then has been written here; and is critical in determining how good the end result is for each batch. I recycle the water so the moly keeps getting reused.

I will ask this what is the best method us guys have found saving the moly water

Trevor

Trevor

 

[mikegaiz]

Thank You Trevor, ;D it is just what I was looking for. I use 1 lbs. Hodgen bottles all the way. Start with hot water 1 tsp Dawn tumble bullets for 30 min. Then rinse in hot water dump bullets into used molly water in bottle, and tumble. I have only been running it for 1.5 to 2 hours only. It seems to work for me. When finished, I strain the bullets out (Using a colander and funnel), dumping the molly water from one bottle into another one, add a little molly , top off the water as needed (well water), add 100 to 250 bullets and run it again. I dump the bullets into a colander rinse and towel dry. I use the same two bottles and dirty water over and over.

 

[Pete B]

Not sure if the "Wet HBN thread post" was for my benefit or whether my post was unclear if it was................ Has anyone tried the wet moly process and HBN over the top of the moly, meaning both substances at the same time / same projectile? Just throwing an idea out there, stupid or otherwiseR.

 

[scpaul]

I've got one of the early small (less than a half gallon) Hornady ultrasonic case cleaners. I'm wondering if the wet moly process could be used in it? It hasn't got a heater and the max run time is 480 seconds (?) isn't that going to be a problem or do you think that the high frequency will reduce the length of time necessary? I guess that I could keep turning it back on (several times) and check the result and keep on until I get what I want. It doesn't clean the primer pockets and the cleaner leaves a film on the brass so I wind up cleaning the brass with treated walnut shell media. If I mess it up I haven't lost much except the money spent on it. If anyone has tried it with an ultrasonic cleaner please let me know, and if there are any suggestions I'd like to hear them. Thanks, Paul

 

[scpaul]

I guess no one has tried a ultrasonic cleaner. Would someone like to take a WAG? Paul

 

[jonbearman]

I have an early model B that turns slower and was wondering whether it would work if I ran them alittle longer?

 

[Dave2]

Has anyone tried using a vibratory tumbler as is, just bullets in the bowl with water and moly, no jar?

 

[daj]

Has anyone tried using a vibratory tumbler as is, just bullets in the bowl with water and moly, no jar?

Dave, that's been my method since I first read about the wet method.
I installed a splash guard disk of plastic low down to keep the lid dry and scoop the bullets out with a rubber-gloved hand. I rinse the bullets and glove in an ice-cream container with a running hose and then towel dry the bullets. They look perfect and shoot well. The moly water gets reused over and over.

 

[Dave2]

Thanks daj, that's how I'll do my next batch!