Electric Cars -- anyone own one?

[ronsatspokane]

I saw on the internet that you have to do a satanic ritual,
and let Al Gore rub his nuts on your face before you can have
an electric car . This must be why so many people are offended by them.

I'd be up for tea bagging Al Gores private jets.

 

[One Eye Pete]

I should get a horse. Then I’ll ask the Guberment to put up watering troughs and hitching posts because I’m so “green”!

I hate to disillusion you but the "greenies" don't even like horses or livestock of any sort because they fart. Yes they release methane which is a horrible pollutant that greatly contributes to global warming!!!
So you see any form of transportation other than electric cars and bicycles is bad. According to the "left wing-nuts" I guess we should all just stay as stationary as possible, eat nothing but nuts and berries and then we will all be happy and live forver in a pollution free world.
Back to reality I'm going to have some beans for dinner then ride my bike (which is a good thing for exercises) and contribute to global warming!!!!

 

[muleman69]

Doing it this way you are in "car debt" the rest of your life. But most people are anyway because they have to have the latest and greatest.

Well said ,was in that club .....lol

 

[DocCarbon]

Or people need to stop feeling like they need to post on every topic they see if it doesn’t apply to them.

this forum is honestly getting to the point where you can’t ask a serious question because your thread is going to get flooded by bullshit that has nothing to do with what you ask.

OK : Fair enough, so Just last week as she called My Wife Sat. afternoon .
MY SiL and husband just bought an Audi electric car ,North of $80 K . They reside in Sacramento . They own a place in Crescent City , CA. . Couldn't make it on a full charge ,actually had to stop and deviate their route twice for #2 Charges in order to make the trip . Trip is less than #400 miles but actually had to go an additional 90-120 miles out of their way in order to get their tree huger car charged Twice .
Are electric cars practical ,Yes IF you live and commute within 60-100 miles ,otherwise NO !.

Is that more to your liking ?.

 

[muleman69]

I saw on the internet that you have to do a satanic ritual,
and let Al Gore rub his nuts on your face before you can have
an electric car . This must be why so many people are offended by them.

Didn't no Al had Gonads.....

 

[DocCarbon]

FYI : Being in debt for something practical one can use is considerably different , from a want a be something or another garage trophy . I'll stick with Diesel and Gas ,as it's simply a matter of time before that WH criminal demented pedophile ,is either incarcerated or bounced out . Even his own party sees the ship of USS BS sinking ,with NO survivor's in 2024 .

 

[Brians356]

CNBC story on EV fires:

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[wedgy]

Somebody asked earlier about jumping a Tesla.....

 

[300_whisper]

How does politics get into everything? My man here is asking for opinions on a car. Lol

 

[CarlGeorge]

I'll throw in a little more data.....

We took delivery of our Tesla Dec 8, 2021. As of tonight (Mar 20) our odometer reads 9,201. We've been driving the car.....a lot.

We've taken two significant road trips:
CO to Carmel, CA and back: 2,911 miles. Drove in 0 degree weather across WY and NV. Lots of wind....good amount of snow. Range anxiety is real at first. but it goes away as you get used to the new model.

CO to Sarasota, FL and back: About 4,200 miles. Google maps says today's route (Boonville, MO to home; just got home a little while ago) is just under 11 hours of driving - not counting any restroom / gas / eating breaks. We did it in 13 hours. Charging does expand total travel time a bit - but not horrendously so. Driving automation reduces fatigue significantly. I did all of the driving today and I'm less fatigued compared to when in a "non-automated" car.

I haven't studied availability of non-Tesla fast chargers. But it's clear Tesla's Supercharger network is the key to making a Tesla a viable road trip car.

I can see LOTS of scenarios where an EV does not make sense. On the other hand, there are lots of scenarios where an EV does work, including long distance trips....depending on the details of how someone likes to travel.

 

[Ultimag]

yup my wife and i both own tesla's & and I'm considering the f150 electric

 

[Thor357]

Been reading up on these and not sure what to believe ? I would rather hear it from an owner. Two sides to every story

I got a story about a Tesla for you.
I and my friend live in the Rocky Mountains. He has an S model Tesla. He drives it like it's an off road truck!
We are avid target shooters and often go up into the mountains to shoot. There's an area not too far away that we go to.
One day he showed up long after I had already been at the range. He pulled up next to my vehicle and we began to shoot. After we ran out of bullets it was obviously time to pack up and go home. When he went to "start" his Tesla, it wouldn't. Why? Because he had no WIFI signal!!! Or something like that. I don't much at all about EV's. He said he had parked in the same parking area the other day, just not in the same spot and had no problem. He said we needed to drag is car across the dirt parking lot to the area where his car would start. My vehicle couldn't budge it, no grip on the dirt whatsoever. Luckily a guy should up with a 4x4 and we hooked up the chain he had to the Tesla, which apparently has a tow hook feature. Once the Tesla was towed to the spot, he was able to get it started. I will NEVER own an EV just because of that day, even if I never drove it in the mountains here!

 

[Thor357]

I'm so old I don't want a vehicle with a computer in it.

Great!! Got a '72 and '73 Chevy pickup. I'd sell them if the price is right. Both run and drive fine.
Otherwise anything stock after '74 has some computer component in it.
On second thought I better not sell them. If an SME occurs, I'll be one of the few who can drive anywhere!!!

 

[Thor357]

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Can you say IRONY?

 

[hoz53]

250 - 270 miles. Takes 15 mins to super charge. If he ignores the 80% and charges 100% he gets 330 miles.

I thought the supercharger took an hour for a full charge from being run all the way down.
i talked to a guy charging a Tesla last year at a supercharger on the turnpike here and he said he was at 50% and itwas going to take a 1/2 hour to charge to full charge. if you really can charge in 15 minutes that would make EV way more attractive to me.
By the way the nameplate on one of those superchargers says 500 vdc at 350A. thats some serious power. the place i saw had 10 superchargers and if they all have cars charging and you dont move yours as soon as its charged there is a fee for that to.

 

[CarlGeorge]

I thought the supercharger took an hour for a full charge from being run all the way down.
i talked to a guy charging a Tesla last year at a supercharger on the turnpike here and he said he was at 50% and itwas going to take a 1/2 hour to charge to full charge. if you really can charge in 15 minutes that would make EV way more attractive to me.
By the way the nameplate on one of those superchargers says 500 vdc at 350A. thats some serious power. the place i saw had 10 superchargers and if they all have cars charging and you dont move yours as soon as its charged there is a fee for that to.

• The rate of charging slows as the battery is filled. So....charging from 0-60%, for example, can be done very quickly. 60-80% is kind of fast. 80-100% takes quite a while.
• My wife and I charge enough to get us to the next charger - or maybe enough to get 2 chargers down the highway - depending on the situation. We never fill up to 100% - like one always does with a gas car.

When we arrive at a charger we target which charger we want to get to next. Then we charge enough to get there (plus a little buffer). We're pretty much always keeping the battery as empty as we're comfortable and charging just enough to get us to the next charging stop we want to do.....in order to not have time spent charging when the battery is relatively full and taking a long time because it's getting full.

The way this works out when we travel is most charging stops are in the 20-30 min range. We sometimes have 10 min stops and others are 40. I'd say usually we're ready to go maybe 5 min before the car is. We've had situations where the bathroom/getting food tasks took longer than the car needed to charge.

 

[rijndael]

When he went to "start" his Tesla, it wouldn't. Why? Because he had no WIFI signal!!!

I'd like more data on this one because I'm struggling to connect the dots.

Was he relying on his phone/app to start the car, rather than the key card? If so, there are a lot of stories of the cars failing to wake up when using the app.

 

[moondog]

Batteries to an EV are what the engine is to a traditional ICE vehicle. They determine the performance capabilities of the power train (power, discharge rates, temperature limits, recharge rates, etc.).

The only way to significantly differentiate your powertrain from your competitors is via battery pack design. It is also the single most expensive component of the vehicle.

There is zero incentive to standardize on pack design. Hot swapping will never be a thing. I'm not giving my $30k battery pack to you for one of unknown history and capacity. If you are a fleet owner, sure, but not for the general public.

How Is This A Good Idea?: EV Battery Swapping

Swap this technological dead-end out for better batteries, improved superchargers and more universal EV charging standards

spectrum.ieee.org

Ok, let's go with that

 

[moondog]

The OP asked opinions from owners or first hand experience. I can't believe how this thread derailed into a conspiracy theory, political, disaster. Some valid concerns and things to consider, but Really? Sorry Muleman, and good luck with your decision.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I was curious if when charging in the hot summertime can a person sit in the car with the air conditioner on?