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DEON announces the March-X 8-80X56 HM WA X "MAJESTA" with videos

Anyone tried these yet?
These remind me of the old Kelbly rings. Matched pairs.
I use them to bolt down my Majesta to my f-open rig and a 30mm set for my smallbore silhouette rifle. I do like the centering pin feature to ensure the top caps are centered while installing. I think I'll go to their one piece mount with the 20 moa cant so the mini-hubble is closer to optical center when being used at 1k. My one gripe is the clamps need to be practically unbolted from the main housing to install them. Unlike the captive designs of Nightforce or the older March rings (NF clones imo)

The cross bolts are very close to the width of pic rail slots. Very little fore or aft play to take up when tightening them to spec.
 
Quick question for other owners, when you are adjusting the parallax/side focus, does your view go from blurry to double image as you over-adjust from near to far? I'm used to blurry-to-sharp-to-blurry in pretty much every other kind of optic (apart from an optical rangefinder) so I want to make it's normal for this scope.
 
Quick question for other owners, when you are adjusting the parallax/side focus, does your view go from blurry to double image as you over-adjust from near to far? I'm used to blurry-to-sharp-to-blurry in pretty much every other kind of optic (apart from an optical rangefinder) so I want to make it's normal for this scope.
I don't really understand your question and what you mean by double image after over ajusting.

Here is a link to an article on how to optimize the focus on a March riflescope (and probably any other scope.)
https://marchscopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Check-list-4-steps-to-focus.pdf

If you still have issues, I would suggest you contact DEON directly at their website marchsopes.com; they are very responsive.
 
I don't really understand your question and what you mean by double image after over ajusting.

Here is a link to an article on how to optimize the focus on a March riflescope (and probably any other scope.)
https://marchscopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Check-list-4-steps-to-focus.pdf

If you still have issues, I would suggest you contact DEON directly at their website marchsopes.com; they are very responsive.
When using an optic (microscope, binos, telescope, rifle scope) you use the primary focus to bring the focal plane into alignment with the object of value. If you over or under asjust, the object will typically become blurry as it gets farther from the focal plane of the optic. In my Majesta, one side of the focal plane produces a double image rather than just being blurry.

What I was trying to figure out was if my majesta was behaving normally or if it is damaged. There was always the possibility that March did some weird stuff with the optic path and it resulted in this behavior being normal. Seeing as no one else has reported this behavior, it sounds like my specimen needs a trip back to Japan.
 
When using an optic (microscope, binos, telescope, rifle scope) you use the primary focus to bring the focal plane into alignment with the object of value. If you over or under asjust, the object will typically become blurry as it gets farther from the focal plane of the optic. In my Majesta, one side of the focal plane produces a double image rather than just being blurry.

What I was trying to figure out was if my majesta was behaving normally or if it is damaged. There was always the possibility that March did some weird stuff with the optic path and it resulted in this behavior being normal. Seeing as no one else has reported this behavior, it sounds like my specimen needs a trip back to Japan.
I think you are correct, there's something amiss with your scope. I could not understand what you were saying originally, but after your explanation, I can say that my Majesta doesn't do that, and I have not heard of any others doing what you described.

As you know, you can contact them through their website.
 
For the guys who have been running one of these awhile, are you still loving it?
Am currently running a Kahles K-1050 in, mostly ,mid-range F-Open and it has been flawless. Planning to shoot more Long Range in the future and wondering if the Majesta is worth the investment. Any recommendations between the W1 vs. the WFD reticle? Thanks in advance for the info...
 
For the guys who have been running one of these awhile, are you still loving it?
Am currently running a Kahles K-1050 in, mostly ,mid-range F-Open and it has been flawless. Planning to shoot more Long Range in the future and wondering if the Majesta is worth the investment. Any recommendations between the W1 vs. the WFD reticle? Thanks in advance for the info...
Haven't used mine a ton yet, but from day one seems very muddy. Night as bright as my NF Comps. I also have 3 high master 10-60's. I plan on running it for the rest of the season, to see how it pans out.
 
For the guys who have been running one of these awhile, are you still loving it?
Am currently running a Kahles K-1050 in, mostly ,mid-range F-Open and it has been flawless. Planning to shoot more Long Range in the future and wondering if the Majesta is worth the investment. Any recommendations between the W1 vs. the WFD reticle? Thanks in advance for the info...
I have been running mine at 80X for almost a year now. It has not come down from 80X in competition since I first started using it.

As you can expect, I have talked to many Majesta owners since they first started shipping them. I know of many shooters who have multiple Majestas now. The WFD reticle is extremely popular but there is nothing wrong with the W1 or W2, they are fine reticles also.

At the match today, there were quite a few Majestas on the line and the ones that were near me were all pegged at 80X. It's easy to see when the fast lever is attached; they are all at 2 o'clock.

There was quite a bit of wind today, but for the first 2 matches, it was pretty steady. I shot a 196-11X on the first match and 197-11X on the second match. I took 5 sighters on the first match, and the last 3 were Xs. Then I had issues punching the button to go for record and shot 9, one on! I'm having some old-age issue during long strings of fire. I dropped two 9s at the end of the match, shot 19 and 20. My hand was shaking like crazy. During the match, I was piling the Xs one of top of the other. At 80x, I could be extremely precise in my hold and took full advantage of that. During match #2, I was also able to hold on a specific number of the target and plowed on through, collecting another 11 Xs in the process. Shot 19 was a 9, but I managed to pull out a 10 on shot 20.

During match #3, the wind was more erratic, and I dropped 5 shots and only collected another 4X. I was holding up to almost at the edge of the black on the right, and I already had 1.5 MOA on the rifle. The wind would drop and come back, so I was going between 2.5 right to edge of black. I was making full use of the WFD reticle, but now quite at the outer wings yet. I used ALL of the 10-ring and scared the X-ring.

In the event, Carl won the match besting me by 4 points, with a 592-15X, I think. There were 3 of us in second place at 588. I took second with my 26X, and the 3rd and 4th were 22X and 18X. The Majesta is an X-producing machine. Granted, you must have the rifle, ammo and marksmanship skills to extract the scores, but the Majesta will help your aim.

When you are using such an advanced optic, some user education is required. I know of some people who think the Majesta will produce a perfect IQ when the mirage is roaming. I have explained to them that is not the case. The IQ WIIL BE affected by the mirage, but the aiming black will remain round, and you will be able to see the rings on the target and thus be able to place the reticle where you want. This was an epiphany for some owners and once understood, they were able to extract more performance out of their rifle system.

Also, your brain does a lot of interpreting of the image that your eye sends it. After a few matches with the Majesta at 80X in the soupy mirage, your brain is used to it. Of course, if you screw up your rifle handling or you misread the wind by not seeing that switch, you will still be able to place the reticle on the wrong sport on the target and drop points. But when it's all working well and you find the sweet spot for that relay, the Majesta will help you pile on the X count.

The Majesta is heavy and it's expensive, and your competitors will thank you for not getting one.
 
I have been running mine at 80X for almost a year now. It has not come down from 80X in competition since I first started using it.

As you can expect, I have talked to many Majesta owners since they first started shipping them. I know of many shooters who have multiple Majestas now. The WFD reticle is extremely popular but there is nothing wrong with the W1 or W2, they are fine reticles also.

At the match today, there were quite a few Majestas on the line and the ones that were near me were all pegged at 80X. It's easy to see when the fast lever is attached; they are all at 2 o'clock.

There was quite a bit of wind today, but for the first 2 matches, it was pretty steady. I shot a 196-11X on the first match and 197-11X on the second match. I took 5 sighters on the first match, and the last 3 were Xs. Then I had issues punching the button to go for record and shot 9, one on! I'm having some old-age issue during long strings of fire. I dropped two 9s at the end of the match, shot 19 and 20. My hand was shaking like crazy. During the match, I was piling the Xs one of top of the other. At 80x, I could be extremely precise in my hold and took full advantage of that. During match #2, I was also able to hold on a specific number of the target and plowed on through, collecting another 11 Xs in the process. Shot 19 was a 9, but I managed to pull out a 10 on shot 20.

During match #3, the wind was more erratic, and I dropped 5 shots and only collected another 4X. I was holding up to almost at the edge of the black on the right, and I already had 1.5 MOA on the rifle. The wind would drop and come back, so I was going between 2.5 right to edge of black. I was making full use of the WFD reticle, but now quite at the outer wings yet. I used ALL of the 10-ring and scared the X-ring.

In the event, Carl won the match besting me by 4 points, with a 592-15X, I think. There were 3 of us in second place at 588. I took second with my 26X, and the 3rd and 4th were 22X and 18X. The Majesta is an X-producing machine. Granted, you must have the rifle, ammo and marksmanship skills to extract the scores, but the Majesta will help your aim.

When you are using such an advanced optic, some user education is required. I know of some people who think the Majesta will produce a perfect IQ when the mirage is roaming. I have explained to them that is not the case. The IQ WIIL BE affected by the mirage, but the aiming black will remain round, and you will be able to see the rings on the target and thus be able to place the reticle where you want. This was an epiphany for some owners and once understood, they were able to extract more performance out of their rifle system.

Also, your brain does a lot of interpreting of the image that your eye sends it. After a few matches with the Majesta at 80X in the soupy mirage, your brain is used to it. Of course, if you screw up your rifle handling or you misread the wind by not seeing that switch, you will still be able to place the reticle on the wrong sport on the target and drop points. But when it's all working well and you find the sweet spot for that relay, the Majesta will help you pile on the X count.

The Majesta is heavy and it's expensive, and your competitors will thank you for not getting one.

I would be happy to just lock mine down at 80x from now on... :) I rarely mess with my magnification dial. occasionally early morning shooting I may move it down to 60 or 70. But 99% of the matches I keep it at 80x. I'm hooked!
 
I would be happy to just lock mine down at 80x from now on... :) I rarely mess with my magnification dial. occasionally early morning shooting I may move it down to 60 or 70. But 99% of the matches I keep it at 80x. I'm hooked!
This ^ 100%

Shooting styles and eyesight will vary but I have no issues running it at 80x nearly every match I shoot it at. There are rare occasions I'll bump it down to maybe 65x but again, rare. I know others who use it down to 50x, but only because it looks so much better at 50x in tough conditions than other scopes where they'd normally dial back to something like 25x.
 
The 80X group is growing. Shooting F-class at 80X is a paradigm shift. The Super ED glass in the Majesta along with the pixie-dust that DEON added in the optical path, and the wide field of view make it a game changer. It's always fun to see the "Majesta Epiphany" look on people's faces when they first look through a Majesta.
 
Last weekend, I shot my second consecutive 1000-yard F-Class match with an HM score, (May 588-26X). I shot a 589-23X in what were tricky conditions for matches 2 and 3. I scored 199-11X on the first, 193-6X on the second, and 197-6X on the third and final match. My Majesta was set at 80X for all matches. and the MTR-WFD reticle was very helpful, especially in the last match when the conditions worsened. It was good enough for first place in F-TR and should earn me my HM card in F-Class, (all at 1000-yards in F-TR with a bipod and .308 Winchester chambering.)

I was despairing of ever reaching that level, as I will be shooting Grand Senior come January and things are increasingly less steady with advancing age. I had to revise several things in my equipment to make this happen and I will say right now that the Majesta helped me get there. I was talking recently with a much younger shooter who was obtaining excellent scores with a riflescope set at 30X or some such. His eyes are far better than mine because I can't see the X-ring at 30X. Having a big picture of the target in all its glory and being able to place the central dot on the numbers written on the target, meant for the target puller to see, is just a huge benefit for this older geezer.

A couple of comments and observations.

The Majesta is a highly sophisticated optical device that pushes the limits of what is possible/useful in a riflescope. My fried @Fred Bohl and others advocate fine tuning the diopter adjustment on your f\riflescope at the highest magnification, looking at your target. The fast-focus eyepiece on the Majesta lends itself well for this exercise. A few months back, I did just that on a bright early morning match before any mirage showed up. I tweaked the diopter and since there are numbers on the eyepiece, it's easy to see if there is movement. Plus there is a lock ring for the diopter. At any rate, that touched up the image for me and it's superb.

Another comment I want to pass along; as @F Class John said earlier and as other Majesta owners have told me, in heavy mirage, there is a definite IQ improvement if you dial back the magnification just a tick. Some have said to 75X, FCJ said 65X, I think. I have not confirmed that yet, but at the next mirage fest, AKA the July 7th Bayou Rifles 1000-yard match, I may just try that out and see for myself.
 
These sound like fantastic scopes. Definitely on my wish list, I could really use an upgrade from the 20x I normally use. I'm surprised they are so useable at 80x, great to hear they are helping improve owners scores.
 
My scope caps for the Majesta scope is now available:

 
Dumb question but would this scope be overkill for short range 100-200 yard target shooting vs the 10-60x56 HM? Seems like you would get a really great image at 40x.
 
For 100 and 200 yard target shooting like SRBR, the best would be the 48x52BR HM SPF at 22.4oz and $2200 versus the Majesta D80HV56WTIX-GR at 41.45oz and $4550. But if you have the extra $2350 and can use the extra 19.05oz in your scope then by all means go for the gold.
 

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