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DEON announces the March-X 8-80X56 HM WA X "MAJESTA" with videos

Eye box;
I ran a few more rounds down range with my Majesta yesterday.
The eye box is tight @80 but on a bench rifle your pretty much set
in your position and maybe a tiny bit of adjustment on your part is needed.
Really didn't notice that.
The biggest problem for me is, I had too high of expectations on the clarity
@80x It does get a bit diminished, but if you turn it back down to 60x clear again.
Don't get me wrong, you still see well, just not as clear as 60x and lower.
And @60x and lower, it is as clear as any scope out there.
Might not be as bright as the NF comp. but maybe a bit cleaner picture.
My 2 cents.
 
@gunsandgunsmithing Mike, thank you for the kind words. Please understand that I do NOT speak for DEON in any way shape or form. The items that I discussed re. the reticle types and fitness is just a way of explaining the parameters. If you would like to have a March-X 10-60X56 with Lou's Reticle, I would urge you to ask DEON directly. You can go to their website and drill down to Contact Us and type in your message. They will get back to you in a day or two. Now, if you want a similar reticle for the Majesta, that would have to be an etched reticle designed for the wide-angle view. Again, just ask them and see what they say; they are VERY responsive.
 
I am loving the discussion about the eyebox and the user's experience. As riflescope weenies, we like to compare things and especially new things to things with which we are already familiar, after all, the human brand is a comparison engine.

The wide-angle of the Majesta at 80X is new. People will compare it to somethign they know and I remember Otis @BP1 looking through my Majesta at a match about a month ago. My Majesta was set at its usual 80X. He looked through it and said he could not see much difference between it and his Comp. I told him, you just looked at 80X, crank it down to 55X and look again. He did, and the look on his face spoke volumes. He even recounted this in another thread. The thing is that at 80X, the FOV of the Majesta is very similar to the FOV of the Comp at 55X. It will be darker in the Majesta, but it takes time to realize that you are seeing a bigger, more magnified picture since the FOV is so similar.

@Ranger188 Again, it's all about what you are familiar with. The Majesta pushes the optical boundaries of a riflescope. Right now, the only thing that compares to it at 80X is the earlier version of the 8-80X56, which does not have Super ED glass and has an AAOV of 20° instead of the 25° of the Majesta. Nothing else comes close. I'm in my late 60s and my eyesight is not what it used to be, but I am enjoying the view of the target at 80X. I enjoy seeing the details of the target at 1000yards. I can see the number in the rings on the horizontal and use them as a hold when it's convenient. The Majesta ships with an inner wheel that fits on the side focus knob. This affords the user more control, more granularity in the focus and I went a step further and put on the big wheel on the side focus knob for extra fine focus. At high magnification you can fine tune the focus. For me, this works extremely well.

I find that at 80X I can surgically place the circle dot of the WFD exactly where I want, and I mean, exactly.

@F Class John I completely agree with you. Once I'm properly in position, I have no issues with the eyebox at 80X and I'm enjoying the view watching the fly move around in the X-ring, unaware of the 200gr jacketed freight train coming at it.
 
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Turbulent Turtle said:
At 80X, first you have to find the eyebox. :eek:

Yes, it's very tight at that magnification. I have people coming over to my mat, asking to look through the Majesta. The problem is that I am always at 80X now, so when they first look through it, it takes a while to get situated. However, if I crank it down to something mundane, like 55X or 42X, there's all kinds of eyeboxing going on. The wide-angle eyepiece presents a lot of view.

I usually crank down to 40X or so when I get setup in the morning and line everything up. Then, when I'm good to go, I crank up to 80X and leave it there for the day. Since we use electrornic targets, we are able to set up 3 to a target at Bayou Rifles and we just leave the set up on the ground with EICs inserted while the other relays shoot.

Back to 80X. It's tight, but then again, you need to have perfect form to score well in F-class and once you see the target properly, you know you're set up properly on the rifle. I certainly would not be using 80X in a PR-style match where you have straddle between an overturned rusted car body and a 2-legged barstool using a mirror to aim.

The Majesta @ 80X is for high precision shots in proper position. Beware, once bitten by the 80X bug, anything less seems so far away.
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@Turbulent Turtle, thanks for your candid response. It mirrors my experience. I will add that shooting free recoil at 80x it has been difficult for me to maintain the eyebox. As I lower the magnification, the eyebox gets larger and easier to manage. If I pin the rifle, it is not an issue. The eyebox on the Precision is much more forgiving at equal magnification.

At 525 yards at times, the mirage here has been so bad that you can not make out the target at 80x. However, backing the scope down to 35x, the sight picture has been perfect, where others were struggling.
 
buckeye68, the used majesta on europtic was definitely yours. I bought it before finding this thread and it has the same scratches on the ocular housing. At least they used an entire roll of packing tape to fix the box this time.
 
Got to take a peek through one of the orginal prototypes - very impressive piece of engineering with arguably the best turrets I've ever touched. Eyebox is a definite improvement over the 10-60x56 HM and it's definitely a solid scope. IF I was in the market for a new scope, it would be on my shopping list.
 
mooseycreatures said:
buckeye68, the used majesta on europtic was definitely yours. I bought it before finding this thread and it has the same scratches on the ocular housing. At least they used an entire roll of packing tape to fix the box this time.
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I’m glad you got a better deal than they offered me to keep it when I talked to CS. I hope you’re happy with it.
 
buckeye68 said:
I’m glad you got a better deal than they offered me to keep it when I talked to CS. I hope you’re happy with it.
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You may have dodged a bullet. I finally got it mounted and it gets kinda soft above 40x. I haven't had a chance to compare it side by side with another 50x yet and it could just be my eyes getting tired rather than the optics being out of alignment.
Still, just going by memory and ignoring the increased FOV, I can't say the image sharpness or contrast was noticibly better than a classic Sightron SIII. Less CA in the March, but it is overcast and raining today whereas I was using the SIII in blue skies and full sun.
 
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mooseycreatures said:
You may have dodged a bullet. I finally got it mounted and it gets kinda soft above 40x. I haven't had a chance to compare it side by side with another 50x yet and it could just be my eyes getting tired rather than the optics being out of alignment.
Still, just going by memory and ignoring the increased FOV, I can't say the image sharpness or contrast was noticibly better than a classic Sightron SIII. Less CA in the March, but it is overcast and raining today whereas I was using the SIII in blue skies and full sun.
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What’s the verdict?
 
avidflyer said:
What’s the verdict?
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I had already noticed the post to which you are responding, and had originally decided to not even give it the benefit of an answer, because it was so, (how to put this politely). incoherent.

The @mooseycreatures reported on his experience of mounting it and looking through it once in an overcast with rain session and then comparing it, from memory, with a session with an SIII in blue sky and full sun.

On a scale of 1 to 10 for scientific rigor in experiment and comparison, he gets a minus 4.

I am here at Ben Avery this week, participating (not very well, but that's another story) in the US Nationals, Mid Range and Long Range. I have a Majesta on my F-TR rig and It has been at 80X all week. On the other hand, the conditions have been atrocious with the wind blowing equipment off the firing berm all week. They turn down the wind machine at around 2:30PM when the matches conclude for the day. The fiends.

On the other hand,, John Masek (@F Class John , just won the US Nationals 2023 F-Open championship with his Majesta. I spoke with him a few times this week, and I'm willing to video anyone who wants to take his Majesta away from him; I think I could enter the video in a horror film festival and win some awards.

I have talked to several other Majesta owners and get similar responses, with a couple also mentioning that it's a heavy riflescope. I remind them that the technology that gives them such a phenomenal IQ is rather complex and that means weight (and cost). DEON posted a good recap of that aspect at their website a few weeks ago.

80X is now the new paradigm in F-Class magnification.
 
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The 2023 US Nationals Long Range Championships have just concluded. In F-Open, the winner, Matt Basalla and the runner-up, Peter Johns, were both shooting with a March-X 8-80X56 HM WA Majesta, with the MTR-WFD reticle. Both are awesome shooters in their own right; they chose to shoot with the Majesta. I think the verdict is in.
 
Absolutely. He uses the W1 reticle, I believe. I mentioned his win in Mid Range earlier this week and on this thread. My posting earlier this evening is for Long Range.

But to your point, the Majesta was used by the winners of 2023 Nationals Mid Range and Long Range championships.
 
Turbulent Turtle said:
Absolutely. He uses the W1 reticle, I believe. I mentioned his win in Mid Range earlier this week and on this thread. My posting earlier this evening is for Long Range.

But to your point, the Majesta was used by the winners of 2023 Nationals Mid Range and Long Range championships.
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FWIW, I ran mine on 80x for 16 of the 17 matches between Mid and Long Range over 8 days of shooting. For the 17th match I came down to 65. It never went below that. One of the most surprising things for me personally was that no matter the mirage, I never dealt with the 'bouncing blob'. Even at 80 in soupy mirage I always felt confident in my hold and rarely if ever lost sight of the 10 ring through the entire week.

To answer the number one question I get, yes it gets a little dark at 80x, of course it does. But I never found that limiting.
 
First off. A shoutout to Eurooptics for exceptional service after the sale. Had to return my first Majesta. Received the replacement via 2nd day delivery. Read the instructions and tried to turn the illuminated reticle on. Turned the intensity knob both ways, no illuminated reticle. Changed out the battery, making sure the positive was toward the scope body. Still no illuminated reticle. I push the button in but don’t feel anything. I’m hoping this is simply pilot error. Any help is appreciated
 
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