DEON announces the March-X 8-80X56 HM WA X "MAJESTA" with videos

[R.Morehouse]

I recall that some years ago, the NF Comp.. was a topic of discussion here; users were having problems with tracking and receiving little satisfaction from NF when the scopes were sent in for inspection. I am assuming the issue was resolved in some way....If my pre-Highmaster 10-60 becomes less than I feel I need for knocking holes in paper out to 1K, I will look into another March. I have had a number of March scopes over the years and currently have 2. There had never been a mechanical issue with any of them, and that has not been a topic here, that I have noticed.......At 67, my eyes and ears ARE going south....LOL

Regards
Rick

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I think I will give Majesta another try, I know it is great scope that's why I pulled $4800 from my wallet in the first place , ( don't tell my wife ) as far as FOV, calculator says Majesta has roughly 28 feet FOV at 40X at 1000yards and NF comp has about 26 feet with same 40X , I am shooting 1 foot targets all the way to 2 inch so the extra foot on left and right of 26-28 feet field across..... could not tell the difference , thanks everybody for all the advise

When it comes to AOV, I created an app for my phone (Turbulent Turtle Optical Tools) that when I put in the published FOV at minimum mag and the FOV at maximum magnification, the minimum and maximum magnification and specify a magnification, it shows me the AOV at minimum and maximum magnification and the FOV at the selected distance. I also created a spreadsheet in which I have accumulated the information for about 120 different riflescopes using their published values. The spreadsheet does the calculations and shows me lots of great information.

For the Comp, I had the published values from a few years back and I went to their website to make sure I had the correct values. They no longer publish the FOV values for the Comp. Undeterred, I downloaded their propaganda sheet (2024 catalog) and the values were in there on page 33. I use the metric values when they are there as I find them to be more accurate and consistent across manufacturers, but the feet/yard usually agree with the metric. So they say 15-X to 55X, with an FOV of 2.3m/100m @ 15X, and an FOV of .6m/100m @ 55x. This translates to an AOV of 19.9° @ 15X and 18.9° @ 55X. For 40X, that translates to 28.1 MOA or 8.2MIL.

For the Majesta, the published values in their propaganda for the Majesta are: 8X to 80X, FOV of 5.45m/100m @ 8X, and an FOV of .545m/100m @ 80X. (Notice how close the Majesta is at .545m @ 80X to the Comp at .6m @ 55X.) This translates to an AOV of 25.0° @ 8X and 25.0° @ 80X. Notice how consistent the Majesta is compared to others in AOV throughout the range. For 40X, this translates to 37.1MOA or 10.9 MIL.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

When it comes to AOV, I created an app for my phone (Turbulent Turtle Optical Tools) that when I put in the published FOV at minimum mag and the FOV at maximum magnification, the minimum and maximum magnification and specify a magnification, it shows me the AOV at minimum and maximum magnification and the FOV at the selected distance. I also created a spreadsheet in which I have accumulated the information for about 120 different riflescopes using their published values. The spreadsheet does the calculations and shows me lots of great information.

For the Comp, I had the published values from a few years back and I went to their website to make sure I had the correct values. They no longer publish the FOV values for the Comp. Undeterred, I downloaded their propaganda sheet (2024 catalog) and the values were in there on page 33. I use the metric values when they are there as I find them to be more accurate and consistent across manufacturers, but the feet/yard usually agree with the metric. So they say 15-X to 55X, with an FOV of 2.3m/100m @ 15X, and an FOV of .6m/100m @ 55x. This translates to an AOV of 19.9° @ 15X and 18.9° @ 55X. For 40X, that translates to 28.1 MOA or 8.2MIL.

For the Majesta, the published values in their propaganda for the Majesta are: 8X to 80X, FOV of 5.45m/100m @ 8X, and an FOV of .545m/100m @ 80X. (Notice how close the Majesta is at .545m @ 80X to the Comp at .6m @ 55X.) This translates to an AOV of 25.0° @ 8X and 25.0° @ 80X. Notice how consistent the Majesta is compared to others in AOV throughout the range. For 40X, this translates to 37.1MOA or 10.9 MIL.


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I do think that FOV is more important than some people give it credit for being, particularly at higher magnification and at 200 or so yards, where seeing the far flags in your scope is a huge deal...to me. Everybody likes magnification but they don't always consider the downside that comes with it. If ya can't see your flags, might as well leave em in the truck.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I do think that FOV is more important than some people give it credit for being, particularly at higher magnification and at 200 or so yards, where seeing the far flags in your scope is a huge deal...to me. Everybody likes magnification but they don't always consider the downside that comes with it. If ya can't see your flags, might as well leave em in the truck.

You are very correct. The Majesta introduced a very wide angle of view to the world of long-range optics with its 25° AOV throughout its zoom range. At 1000 yards, at 80X, I can see the entire target and about half of the target on either side of mine. In Lodi, I can see the complete target on either side of mine.

I do know of at least one person, so there could be more, who runs the Majesta at 40X and enjoys the huge FOV. No need for a spotting scope. I prefer to use a spotting scope and leave my Majesta at 80X. My spotting scope is a Kowa 883 with the extreme wide-angle eyepiece and at 35X, I can see about 20 targets in the Kowa.

I'm a huge fan of wide-angle long-range optics.

 

[Sandstorm]

wide-angle long-range optics.

No down side to this at all Sir....Wish I had two good eyes to utilize it to the fullest.
But I do alright for what I got.... Not using a spotting scope is right in my wheel house...hmmmmm

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

No down side to this at all Sir....Wish I had two good eyes to utilize it to the fullest.
But I do alright for what I got.... Not using a spotting scope is right in my wheel house...hmmmmm

I'll let you in on a little secret, so just keep this between us; While one would think that wider is always better, I believe there is a point of diminishing return in a wide-angle eyepiece. Consider this. The eyepiece for the March 10-60X56 HM is 41mm OD. The eyepiece for the Majesta is 46mm OD. If you want wider still, the eyepiece has to increase accordingly. Now, as you bend the light more to accomplish your wide-angle view, you may run into CA territory which will make the edges of the view softer and more prone to color bleeding. The Majesta (and the other HM riflescopes from March, like the new 5-42X56 and the 2.5-28X52, use Super ED glass and at the 25° of the Majesta and the 26° of the 5-42X56, the IQ is perfect, edge to edge. I'm not sure how much wider you can go before you run into CA.

Also, I always like to say that shooting with the Majesta is like watching a movie in IMAX, you have the full magnified picture and it's a lot bigger than usual. I can't help but wonder if some people could actually have tunnel vision and be unable to see the full wide picture, and also if it's too big, it may simply overwhelm the eye/brain combo. When I go see a movie in IMAX, if like to sit not too close the screen so that I can see the whole movie, but I still find myself scanning the screen sometimes and even developing tunnel vision and focusing on one small part.

I think for me, the 25-26° AOV is the Goldilocks zone; not too big and not too small. I can really pick out the reticle and place it very surgically, but I can also detect conditions around the middle of the target and if need be, focus on an object without moving the rifle. For example, at Bayou, I can see the target number in the upper left quadrant of the view at 80X, without moving the rifle in any way off the center of the target, or wherever I am aiming. It has helped me cut down tremendously on crossfires, as I develop a routine to check the number just before pressing the trigger. I have caught myself on the wrong target a few times recently, and corrected. Crossfires are a bane of my existence since the introduction of Etargets. When the targets were marked, I would notice that the last shot marked was not mine and that would be my clue. Now at my age and looking at a blank wall of targets, well, need I say more?