wkdickinson
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Sightron SIII 45X45 ED - best value out there for 50 and 100 yd. RFBR.
Too much glass for a .22?
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mike mccormick
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used to be common practice to run a 36× on 50ft indoor position rifles. The only way to decide what is too much, is to try. It's amazing what you can get used to.
Maybe I'll try installing it this week. The present Leupold has a 1" tube and the Minox is 30mm, so using the same rings is a no-no. I'll have to install a DIP industries 11mm dovetail to Picatinny rail adapter (which I already have) to be able to use 30mm Picatinny rings.
Should be a straightforward installation, but, if I hesitate, it is because I have an aversion to mess with something that is working well. Never mess with a going machine! But, what the heck, I don't have much else to do this week.
Will report how it goes (went?)
Luisyamaha
Should be a straightforward installation, but, if I hesitate, it is because I have an aversion to mess with something that is working well. Never mess with a going machine! But, what the heck, I don't have much else to do this week.
Will report how it goes (went?)
Luisyamaha
Liven The Dream
Gold $$ Contributor
One 457 8x32x56 Sightron
One 457 Vortex 4x16x44
50-100 yards and some times longer
Sightron is my favorite
One 457 Vortex 4x16x44
50-100 yards and some times longer
Sightron is my favorite
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dc.fireman
Sling & Irons!
I ran a Leupold 40X Competition with the fine crosshair reticle for Smallbore Prone for a little while, after coming off of a Leupold BR-36. I set the focus for about 10 feet in front of the target. The 40X was good enough that I could watch the mirage wash across the target face. The field of view was only slightly larger than the target frames we used (which is about 14.5" wide), at 100 yards. At the 50Y & 50M distance, you're pretty much only seeing the bull + some buff colored target area.
You learned to break the shot on the 'inbound' side of the pulse beat. Most of the guys shooting the higher power scopes could hold inside the 'X' ring; my hold was a little larger. I have stopped shooting scope on Any Sight Days in favor of more practice/competition with iron sights.
You learned to break the shot on the 'inbound' side of the pulse beat. Most of the guys shooting the higher power scopes could hold inside the 'X' ring; my hold was a little larger. I have stopped shooting scope on Any Sight Days in favor of more practice/competition with iron sights.
doclu60
Silver $$ Contributor
Nobody ever learned anything more than what was on the table by not trying something new. You can always go back if it doesn't work out. If you never go forward and experiment/test, you constrict yourself to what you think is the best, but could possibly be not.
Scott
I got a Sightron 45x45ED for use on my Vudoo single shot. The glass is pretty good, aside from getting pretty dark if you don't have good sunlight. The adjustments are accurate, and it holds its zero quite well - just wish it was a little brighter.
Several months later, I gave in to temptation & curiosity, and ordered in Sightron's huge SVSSED 10-50x60TD. Even when set at 50x, that thing's bright & clear, which I'd expected with the 60mm objective & ED glass, but compared to how dark the 45x45 can be, it's a huge difference. I really enjoy using the geared parallax knob too. But eventually, I believed that I'd get more use out of the features of the SV on a BAT 3L LR BR rifle in 6 Dasher, so moved it over to that rifle. For shooting BR Varmint Silhouette, the SV is killer, but then these matches aren't sponsored by any organization, and we can run any kind of optics we want without worrying about weight.
Several months later, I gave in to temptation & curiosity, and ordered in Sightron's huge SVSSED 10-50x60TD. Even when set at 50x, that thing's bright & clear, which I'd expected with the 60mm objective & ED glass, but compared to how dark the 45x45 can be, it's a huge difference. I really enjoy using the geared parallax knob too. But eventually, I believed that I'd get more use out of the features of the SV on a BAT 3L LR BR rifle in 6 Dasher, so moved it over to that rifle. For shooting BR Varmint Silhouette, the SV is killer, but then these matches aren't sponsored by any organization, and we can run any kind of optics we want without worrying about weight.
Ackman
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I dont think you can ever have too much optical horsepower.
It's nice to have but it comes at the price of not seeing the far flags due to reduced field of view. That's all I've been saying on this subject. If you feel like you can see the flags well enough, good. Those subtle changes can eat your lunch though. I'm not talking about seeing flags switch from green to orange, but the small angle changes that are very hard to detect at much distance with the naked eye. Hell, I wish I could fit them all in the scope! Ever wonder how those 6x guys shoot so well?
Ackman
Gold $$ Contributor
Field of view is where the "variable" of a variable power scope comes in. I do mainly critters at different distances. I don't shoot in matches. And paper only for testing and zeroing. More horsepower is always better. Nice to see things big on the screen.
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I have never used either of the two riflescopes you mention...nor familiar with them but based on the greater range spread of magnification offered, I'd mount the 6-30x-56. Just starting in rimfire F-Class, I simply transferred over my F-O center fire NF 15-55 riflescope. And I normally use a range of 20-40x, just like in center fire.
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I can't disagree with that a bit.
CharlieNC
Gold $$ Contributor
I have both those scopes too. Never had a mirage problem that made me want a variable instead.
Fact
8-32 1/8 min Japanese Tasco on the 457; fixed 10x Lyman target spot on the 52; 3-9 Leupold on the Shilen 10/22; 4-12 vortex on the Shaw 10/22. If I were you, I’d stick with that fine Leupold. Better glass. Had a 6.5-20 Leupold on the 40x but I put that bad daddy on my Savage 12 in 204. Man, I likes that 204. Damn thing is 6 times the speed of sound.
That's what I love about the internet gun forums, I always learn something factual.
The speed of sound is 1125 fps. So you must have a really special 204 since it is reaching 6750 fps - all I can say is WOW !!!
drover
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