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Too much glass for a .22?

My CZ-455 has presently a Leupold 6-18X40mm scope. I've had a Minox 6-30X 56mm around for a few years (bought it on impulse, never mounted on anything) which I'm thinking of putting on the CZ. Mostly I shoot it on the 50 yard range, although occasionally I shoot it at 100.
Any thoughts? Too much X? Too big, heavy, or tall? On the pro side I'll be able to see the bullet holes better...

What say you?

Luisyamaha
 
I put a 4.5-30 XRS on the grandsons CZ-457. He likes it and
I think it's better if what any mirage can kick up at 100 yards.
A full 30 power, you don't need to back down.
 
The trend for a few years now has been toward higher and higher magnification. It's nice but comes at a price. Mirage is one thing, especially with the fixed power scopes but an often overlooked but very important factor is that the field of view gets a lot smaller. The issue with that is seeing the far flags, if you use them. You do use flags, right? Different story but the high mag scopes have this big downside. The fov is even worse at 50 than at longer distances..of course. Bottom line is, flag makers aren't gonna make flags that are 80x as big. It's not feasible. So, just be aware that you might see a gnat scratch his balls but your flags may not be in the scope. That's a huge deal that a lot of people aren't considering when they buy the latest and greatest big scopes these days.
 
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I’ve been running a 48x March on my Vudoo single shot and while I’ve had no problems I lent it to a friend and he shot on a heavily shaded range off his cabin porch. He struggled to see the target and with the relatively tight eyebox.

For sure only do the high fixed mag if you are ok with the limitations. My Vudoo is strictly a 50 bench gun but even that might benefit from a variable power scope.

That said I believe anything less than a fine cross hair 24x is selling a top rimfire short of its pure accuracy potential. So your setup sounds excellent to me for a non-walking gun.
 
I’ve been running a 48x March on my Vudoo single shot and while I’ve had no problems I lent it to a friend and he shot on a heavily shaded range off his cabin porch. He struggled to see the target and with the relatively tight eyebox.

For sure only do the high fixed mag if you are ok with the limitations. My Vudoo is strictly a 50 bench gun but even that might benefit from a variable power scope.

That said I believe anything less than a fine cross hair 24x is selling a top rimfire short of its pure accuracy potential. So your setup sounds excellent to me for a non-walking gun.
Yes, I think 42x-45x is a good top end compromise power. Tough to find but I love the March LR reticle. It places the crosshair intersection in the top third of the scope picture, leaving the bottom 2/3rds for viewing flags better. For BR, I'm not sure there has ever been a better reticle.

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My CZ-455 has presently a Leupold 6-18X40mm scope. I've had a Minox 6-30X 56mm around for a few years (bought it on impulse, never mounted on anything) which I'm thinking of putting on the CZ. Mostly I shoot it on the 50 yard range, although occasionally I shoot it at 100.
Any thoughts? Too much X? Too big, heavy, or tall? On the pro side I'll be able to see the bullet holes better...

What say you?

Luisyamaha
Since you already have the scope, and it won't cost you anything to try it. I would mount it and see if you like it.
FYI, I use fixed 46X scopes for both 50 & 100 yd. BR. I use flags, but I shoot heads up so not an issue about seeing my flags. I probably don't need a high magnification scope above 36X since I am not looking through the scope when I shoot.

Lee
 
For clarity(pun intended), there's seeing the flags and their's SEEING the flags. My corrected vision is excellent and I still don't see the subtle angle changes on the far flags without being in the scope and those subtle changes can eat you alive. Seeing green or orange is a different story entirely. There's a time for shooting heads up and there's a time not to as well. If it works for you all the time, that's all I'd do. Hell just use open sights. Lol! Yes, that's way extreme but it's just an extreme example of the same point...that you don't need 80x for this game is all. Just like, we don't need the best of the best glass either. We need the best tracking and repeatability more than glass. Like many, I started out with a T36 Weaver in BR. When I broke the piggy bank and bought a NF BR, pretty new model back then, my scores didn't change but I noticed the biggest difference on the ride home due to less eye fatigue. IMHO, that NF BR is still one of the best scopes out there for BR. There's better glass, for sure, but it's plenty sufficient and is a bullet proof scope if you can stand the weight. As for eye fatigue, some of the new glass is so bright that I notice it due to bright white targets on full sunny days now. No other real down side to premium glass that I can think of. It's just not a necessity when shooting in good light, mostly. I'm not saying it isn't worthwhile over the weaver but I'm not sure it is vs the old NF BR glass. Better...no doubt. Better scores...I do doubt.

My post isn't about clarity or glass at all, but about extreme magnification reducing the field of view, which is undeniable. Buy the best scope you can afford but just understand that bigger isn't necessarily better.
 
I am using a S&B 12-50 on my Vudoo F-Class trainer. This is an old picture of it on my Elrod 40X conversion.

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I have two Sightron SIII 8x32x56 with MOA2 reticles on my CZ 457s and really like them. One has 1/8 MOA turrets and the other one will have by end of the year. I also have two 22s fitted with Athlon Argos BTR Gen 2 10x40x56. They work well but the glass in the Sightrons is much better.
 
Having a scope with high magnification probably won't hurt, and you can always turn the mag down if you choose. IF you intend to use the extra magnification as a reason to shoot at distances farther than 100 yd, choose the scope mount/rings and/or top rail carefully. Having a canted mount/rings or top rail would most likely be beneficial as the drop for .22 ammunition can be substantial past 100 yd and not all high[er] power scopes have sufficient elevation travel to zero with .22 ammo at distances of ~200 yards or further. Some may not even have sufficient travel to zero past 100 yd. Thus, having a canted mount/rings or rail may allow you to get the most out of a higher power scope, even if you don't at those distances all that often.
 

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