Sharp Shooters Supply Gunsmithing

[Dgd6mm]

Dave, we still have to ask ourselves, Is Fred that busy that it takes almost 8 more months to complete a stock?
I, find it very hard to believe. Fred makes some good stock, and then some not-so good. I've seen them. I own one of his that's not bad. I like my Shehane Tracker better. The Shehane is twice the cost.

 

[fm1947]

my first episode was buying a stock to make a long story short, they took the money from my card and never delivered i called my card got all my money back, went all over internet warning anyone i could. there are plenty of reputable gunsmiths out there to deal with their lies and BS. and they sell alot of BS to new guys, like a competition barrel nut for savage now you tell me what that nut is gonna do any better then the one that comes from savage.

 

[ReedG]

I got whetted my interest in competitive shooting back in the days when Savage was selling a BVSS-S for $500 and that was a week's salary for me. In those days, Savages were second-class citizens and ridiculed by the "in" shooters. Fred was the first guy I ever heard of who specialized in improving the Savage action and trigger and earned the reputation as THE Savage guru. A reputation he well earned. The huge sales of Savage rifles and their performance in club shoots and egg shoots around the country carved out a niche for them and the demand for Fred's services ran amok.

I have never understood why Fred and Lisa do (or don't do) some of the things they do and the frustration level of trying to deal with them is off the scale. I think they do have a "favorites" list and why not? Every 'smith I know of has a list like that and if I was a 'smith I would too.

There are some other guys out there now, like Kevin Rayhill and Nat Lambeth, doing Savage work. But in our minds they do not have the aura of THE Savage guru. How many would not prefer a gun built by Jim Borden or Dwight Scott or Sid Goodling, etc., compared to lots of other 'smiths who all do good work?

Though there are lots of shops now that will do work on Savages, they don't have the "Fred touch". I wish they would hire somebody, and I don't think the world is devoid of someone qualified to work in his shop, and someone to be a receptionist and handle "communications" would be nice. They apparently don't care what we think and if all of us give up and walk off in a huff they apparently still have more work than they can keep up with.

 

[fm1947]

ReedG

I had a savage action and krieger barrel done by Lester Bruno, and it will shoot with any custom action, I had lester build a 30 BR for me shouldered the barrell trued it up and I don't believe Fred could do any better and Lester will call you back, you can talk to him no problem, and as I said there are a ton of smiths out there that you can rely on, most any that advertise in the nbrsa megezine and bunches of folks right here on this forum, some of the most knowlegible people are right here, so no one has to put up with lies and bull Shit.

what fred did has nothing to do with today, today is what counts. and most of them don't ask for a dime until their done unlike sss , there are people on here I have ordered hundreds of dollars in bullets and wind flags and send you their stuff with out paying until you get it and they didn't know me from the start, they know me now, I am sure freds a good guy but either him are his wife have no idea how to run a businees, the only reason is because he was one of the first to work on savage but the more and more people leaqrn about their poor habits the more and more business they will loose..

 

[Taildrag15X]

I got whetted my interest in competitive shooting back in the days when Savage was selling a BVSS-S for $500 and that was a week's salary for me. In those days, Savages were second-class citizens and ridiculed by the "in" shooters. Fred was the first guy I ever heard of who specialized in improving the Savage action and trigger and earned the reputation as THE Savage guru. A reputation he well earned. The huge sales of Savage rifles and their performance in club shoots and egg shoots around the country carved out a niche for them and the demand for Fred's services ran amok.

I have never understood why Fred and Lisa do (or don't do) some of the things they do and the frustration level of trying to deal with them is off the scale. I think they do have a "favorites" list and why not? Every 'smith I know of has a list like that and if I was a 'smith I would too.

There are some other guys out there now, like Kevin Rayhill and Nat Lambeth, doing Savage work. But in our minds they do not have the aura of THE Savage guru. How many would not prefer a gun built by Jim Borden or Dwight Scott or Sid Goodling, etc., compared to lots of other 'smiths who all do good work?

Though there are lots of shops now that will do work on Savages, they don't have the "Fred touch". I wish they would hire somebody, and I don't think the world is devoid of someone qualified to work in his shop, and someone to be a receptionist and handle "communications" would be nice. They apparently don't care what we think and if all of us give up and walk off in a huff they apparently still have more work than they can keep up with.

It's kind of odd ReedG that you never heard of Larry Racine, he's been doing Savage work for years, he built my first Savage Prone Rifle in the early 90's before the 112BT's came out.

 

[NateHaler]

Though there are lots of shops now that will do work on Savages, they don't have the "Fred touch".

Be glad they don't have the "Fred touch", or his attitude, or the terrible service that result in his business getting an 'F' from the BBB.

And maybe you've heard of Gordy Gritters when it comes to Savage gurus?

The idea that Fred Moreo works some sort of magic is preposterous. OTOH, so is his customer service.

 

[DaveC]

I wanted to build a 30BR Savage based pistol for IHMSA. I spoke to Fred in May and in October emailed SSS to confirm. Sent an email in Nov asking if they were still in business and got a call from Lisa, “never got your 1st email”. Sent a second email.

Early Dec sent all the pieces to Ronnie Long, pistol done and ready to pick up.
Stock from Carl Bernosky – 30 days for inletting.
Action from Savage – ordered thru local gun store – 2 weeks
Barrel from Broughton – 4 months (it’s a work of art)

Still waiting for responce to October email from SSS.

 

[xs hedspace]

+1 for Larry Racine. Got a threaded, chambered, .3075 Krieger barrel from him that I installed on a Savage action. Made Master in LR, shooting Palma, before my 72 year old eyeballs went south.

 

[bholcomb]

Just to close this out, we finally got the rifle back around the beginning of December. This was after another conversation 3 weeks earlier that stated we were priority and would have the rifle back ASAP. We were supposed to get a tracking number and phone call, neither of which happened. Came home one day and there it sat on the front porch. Glad to be done with them and will NEVER do business with them again.

 

[fm1947]

FYI, I ordered from Shilen, a Barrel, Action, trigger all to be installed the told me 8 weeks to 4 months, guess what 8 wks on the money, its on its way, I have ordered barrels from them same thing what ever time frame they give you , you can count on it.

 

[fm1947]

Another thing for that Shilen Action I ordered a stock from Mcmillan, they quoted 3 months , again right on time, I had a brelled action trued and chambered bt Bruno shooter supply, (Lester Bruno) right on time, today you can have many people do things for you as quoted , you sure do not need to put up with SSS, this forum here can take care of all your shooting needs, on time.

 

[nonliberal]

I have ordered "in stock" parts from SSS that took 3 weeks and 3 phone calls to get.

 

[scooter]

Larry Racine is by far one of the best in the business, period.

 

[joegoble]

they are 30 mins away from i only buy parts from them as i do my own gunsmithing and build. they are sllllooooowwww, I know some locals that have done business with them and was not happy with the time