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RCBS Bench Primer w Holland Upgrade vs Primal Rights $600.00 Tool

RickyK and Dusty, Thanks. I was just wondering about this. My level of shooting just doesn't require that amount of precision.
 
This! I uniform every piece of brass I load and use a 21st Century seater. Call me cheap if you must but I'm not spending the $$ for a Primal seating tool.
I meant to 21st uniformer. I hand prime everything with an old RCBS unit.
Dave
 
From older threads the thought was not to uniform primer pockets on new brass, wait until you fire it as to not remove to much to brass to start with.
 
From older threads the thought was not to uniform primer pockets on new brass, wait until you fire it as to not remove to much to brass to start with.
I’ve never done this but I suppose it makes some sense.
 
HAS ANYONE HERE USED BOTH. BOTH OF THESE UNITS SEAT THE PRIMER BY ADJUSTMENT AND CONTROL DEPTH AND CRUSH? I HAVE USED THE RCBS BENCH SEATER FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. NOT INTERESTED IN HIGH VOLUME/ INTERESTED IN BLUEPRINTED AMMO. WHAT WILL THE CPS DO THAT THE RCBS WITH HOLLAND UPGRADE WONT DO?


TIA
I have the Holland adapter. I love it.
 
So, what will the 21st century do, that the other 2 mentioned above wont? I already have the RCBS bench priming tool. To control depth and crush I am ordering the Holland perfect primer seater add on. I must say, I doubt I would leave a bench type tool. What will any of these units do, that the other wont?
The 21c will allow you the freedom of mobility
 
the trick is to find the priming unit that indexes off of the bottom of the primer pocket and not using the rim as a datum point. Its out there!....the rim and and primer depth guage that works off the rim...is pointless.
primer pocket depth varies and indexing from the rim...continues those variances.
 
I'll throw my sense in for what's it's worth.

I recently purchased the CPS. I did it for a few reasons.

1. The speed in which I can prime cases is pretty quick.
2. I DONT need some magic feel to know how deep the primers are seated in the case.
3. A controlled hard stop depth setting that is adjustable.
4. I am not priming on my dillon anymore and having to deal with swapping about the whole assembly every time I want to swap from small to large.
5. I can get a more consistent due to the hard stop and not having to develope the feel if a pocket is tighter or softer.

I still purchased the CPS knowing this that Mr LITZ himself has tested the primer seating depth theory in a laboratory setting and found no correlation. The only thing he stated is the primer must match the powder burn rate.

Also uniforming primer pockets is a waste and will ruin primer pocket depths consistency.
 
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I'll throw my sense in for what's it's worth.

I recently purchased the CPS. I did it for a few reasons.

1. The speed in which I can prime cases is pretty quick.
2. I DONT need some magic feel to know how deep the primers are seated in the case.
3. A controlled hard stop depth setting that is adjustable.
4. I am not priming on my dillon anymore and having to deal with swapping about the whole assembly every time I want to swap from small to large.
5. I can get a more consistent due to the hard stop and not having to develope the feel if a pocket is tighter or softer.

I still purchased the CPS knowing this that Mr LITZ himself has tested the primer seating depth theory in a laboratory setting and found no correlation. The only thing he stated is the primer must match the powder burn rate.
I can do #3 and #5 with my $90 Bald Eagle priming tool. However, that CPS is sure slick.
 
You can but I am not touching every primer to set in the tool. When I can load up a dillon tube and go.

What is your time worth? If I can buy faster and more accurate. I'll do that.
 
I wouldn't say all that. Not knowing you at all.

But I challenge you to try it for your self. Grab some lapua brass uniform 10 pieces and leave 10 alone and shoot them for ES and group size.

Also measure the depths in Virgin brass before and after the first and second and third firing report the results.

Also if Brian litz can't find a correlation with primer seating depths then how will removing brass from the strongest part of the case help.
 
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I wouldn't say all that. Not knowing you at all.

But I challenge you to try it for your self. Grab some lapua brass uniform 10 pieces and leave 10 alone and shoot them for ES and group size.
If you clean the pockets lightly with a good uniformer tool, what’s the down side to having pockets of equal depth ?
 

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