Holland Perfect Primer Seater versus Primal Rights CPS

[Hemipowrd]

I use Lapua and ADG brass for precision rifle. I uniform the primer pocket depth and use the CPS. Works very well for my application. The rim thickness is very consistent for both Lapua and ADG for the batches I have. If your brass doesn't have consistent rim thickness then primer depth will obviously vary based on the rim thickness variation.

 

[DeerHunter82]

I use the Holland model. I’ve found it to be consistent and reliable.

 

[209jones]

Depends on what you pay for the RCBS unit, the Holland is 170.00. Even calling it at 100.00 for the RCBS unit, compared to the Derraco PCPS at 230.00 regular, which was on sale for 200.00 this winter. Here in Cda, have to add 35% exchange and likely 40.00US frt chgs, there's 82.50 exchange, plus 10.00 brokerage on the 200.00 PCPS. Makes no sense to buy an RCBS and add the Holland stuff, moneywise, spacewise or qualitywise.

 

[DeerHunter82]

Depends on what you pay for the RCBS unit, the Holland is 170.00. Even calling it at 100.00 for the RCBS unit, compared to the Derraco PCPS at 230.00 regular, which was on sale for 200.00 this winter. Here in Cda, have to add 35% exchange and likely 40.00US frt chgs, there's 82.50 exchange, plus 10.00 brokerage on the 200.00 PCPS. Makes no sense to buy an RCBS and add the Holland stuff, moneywise, spacewise or qualitywise.

I bought a used RCBS on eBay then added the Holland attachment. Saved a little money in the end.

 

[Fire Dog]

Depends on what you pay for the RCBS unit, the Holland is 170.00. Even calling it at 100.00 for the RCBS unit, compared to the Derraco PCPS at 230.00 regular, which was on sale for 200.00 this winter. Here in Cda, have to add 35% exchange and likely 40.00US frt chgs, there's 82.50 exchange, plus 10.00 brokerage on the 200.00 PCPS. Makes no sense to buy an RCBS and add the Holland stuff, moneywise, spacewise or qualitywise.

I was just about to post about the Derraco PCPS unit {Proudly made in OZstralia as is the Roll Sizer} that is Au$230 {Au$100= about US$66} and they even have adapters to be able to use it on a Co-Ax press as well...

PCPS next gen precision primer seating system by Derraco Engineering – Derraco Engineering, the maker of Ugly annealers

FC John does a review on it here:

 

[209jones]

We're at 1.12 cdn to Aus, not too bad doing it that way, it's much more bearable, took about the same time to get here as from US. Was using mine tonite, best setup I've used yet. I just sold off 5 different priming units a couple of wks ago, that covered it for me.

 

[Oklahoma Jim]

I really like my Derraco PCPS! It's easy to use and gives very consistent results.

 

[SeabeeKen]

I really like my Derraco PCPS! It's easy to use and gives very consistent results.

I have to agree. I uniform my pockets and the derraco is precise, fast, and excellent feel. Indexed so I can hit the feed bar with my thumb as the handle comes back up while feeding cases with the other. Love the thing

 

[6.5 forever]

The regular old RCBS bench primer works for me.

Me too. Especially after using the K&M pocket uniformer.

 

[moondog]

It's been smoking hot here the last few days. Decided to man cave it and process a lot of Brass yesterday, like 700 in various calibers.
My hand was so sore after priming I just ordered a Derraco today.

 

[ljmontano]

I have the old CPS Lite seating tool still works great

 

[Conaso]

All are affected by rim thickness variations, so you better buy good brass and tediously sort by rim thickness. Recommend you wait to see reviews of Lyman's new Accu-Primer Auto Load Priming Tool to access if their statement is true: "adjustable priming punch is unique in that it stops against the bottom surface of the cartridge case. In this manner, you can control the exact amount of primer depth below the bottom surface of the case. ".

 

[Janeau]

I use the CPS. I shoot Benchrest for score and group and I love it. It’s adjusted for my Lapua brass and work flawlessly and with consistency. You don’t need to feel the primer seating - while it is adjusted and you use good brass with consistent primer pocket- you let the tool do it’s job. If you think your brass pockets are not consistent -there is tools to uniform them.

That complain about tool indexing on the brass rim is hogwash - it make absolutely no difference if you use good brass of the same lot.

 

[FTR_Mojo]

I'm pleased you're happy with your purchase. But its not hogwash at all though is it. That's what actually happens when the tool is used. Any tool that uses a shell holder is the same. It's disingenuous to say otherwise.

I use lapua brass and of the same lot. The variances were pronounced with the CPS. I think its design leaves a lot on the table. The big claims by the manufacturer are the real hogwash.

My results were identical to Bryan Zolnikov's.

 

[stavey]

After watching Bryan Zolnikovs videos. I bought a Lee ACP press for $120. I believe they are now discontinued. They do not seat based on rim thickness. You can tap the bottom of the seater punch. I believe I used a 5/16 cap screw with fine threads. Using this screw you can adjust exactly where you want the primers seated. Irregardless of rim thickness. Exactly the same depth everytime.

 

[Conaso]

I use the CPS. I shoot Benchrest for score and group and I love it. It’s adjusted for my Lapua brass and work flawlessly and with consistency. You don’t need to feel the primer seating - while it is adjusted and you use good brass with consistent primer pocket- you let the tool do it’s job. If you think your brass pockets are not consistent -there is tools to uniform them.

That complain about tool indexing on the brass rim is hogwash - it make absolutely no difference if you use good brass of the same lot.

Excusez-moi, monsieur! I quote myself: "All are affected by rim thickness variations, so you better buy good brass and tediously sort by rim thickness." BTW - I also own the PCPS, Holland Primer Pocket Uniformer, and Accuracy One Primer Guage.. And I never said it was not consistent, just basing of the top of the rim like so many others. There may be a way to modify the press to accommodate adjusting of the rim face. But I not smart or talented enough to manufacturer the component(s).