Local Gunstore Inventory Discussion

[wedgy]

Another indication is the ground at my range...it is usually littered with all types of brass but now it is barren, picked clean except for .22LR and steel / aluminum cases.

 

[urbanrifleman]

What government agencies panic buy?

None of the ones I've been involved with have the excess budget to panic buy.

Their contracts take priority.

I think the Federal government has a few dollars.

 

[Bc'z]

Their contracts take priority.

I think the Federal government has a few dollars.

Its called our tax money. Lol

 

[rijndael]

Their contracts take priority.

I think the Federal government has a few dollars.

If their contracts take priority, there's no need for them to panic buy, their supply is almost always available.

You should check out what agencies are under DHS and the details of their (up to) $112M purchasing contract.

 

[lb-ft]

Demand continues to remain high for firearms.

FBI Stats Indicate Americans Buying Guns at ‘Blistering Pace’: Expert

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[BillJ]

According to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check (NCIS) data, 4.3 million firearm background checks were initiated in January. That’s the highest number on record, and up over 300,000 in comparison to December 2020. Three of the top 10 highest weeks are now from January 2021.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation’s adjusted background check figure of 2 million, reached by subtracting out background code permit checks and permit rechecks and checks on active concealed carry permits, was a jump from its adjusted figure of 1.1 million in January 2020.

^^^^ This the information the CEO of Federal and CCI etc and Board of Vista Outdoors paid attention to and is why they are fulfilling all the demand...

 

[skeeljc]

The guys that are ripping people off on Gunbroker are not helping.

 

[urbanrifleman]

If their contracts take priority, there's no need for them to panic buy, their supply is almost always available.

You should check out what agencies are under DHS and the details of their (up to) $112M purchasing contract.

That is what I meant.

 

[rwj]

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the marketplace hand loaders represent. I’m thinking it’s pretty small...

 

[Kevin57]

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the marketplace hand loaders represent. I’m thinking it’s pretty small...


Maybe...BUT, it is a large percentage of the competitive shooters.

Kevin

 

[The boogalorian]

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the marketplace hand loaders represent. I’m thinking it’s pretty small...

I’ve heard it’s something like 5%. Emerging or not it is small. The fastest growing part of the market is the new shooters, not competitors, sorry to say. That is why loaded ammunition is the primary focus. When that catches up the the component market will get better.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I figure the Government is trying to keep the ammunition away from us, but I guess that’s too damn politically incorrect!

 

[Brians356]

Ammo, components, or toilet paper: It ain't production shortfalls, it's high consumption and hoarding. The large stores can get more to sell out of than the small one-off stores, so yes the little guy is getting squeezed out. But don't go looking for some conspiracy to explain it all.
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[Catfur]

The problem is all the primers are made by full-up ammunition manufacturers. In order to set aside a shift of primers for the component market, they would have to forego that same shift's worth of ammunition. They probably sell a primer for something like a penny. Foregoing a 20-60 cent ammunition sale to preserve a market for a penny component is the sort of thing that would get a CEO run out of town on a rail. Obviously some components are making it out on the market, but nowhere near enough to even whet the appetite of demand, let alone satisfy it.

If there were independent primer makers, the decision for them would be vastly, vastly easier. But there aren't, so Vista and Olin's reply to reloaders is "go 'F' yourselves."

The biggest issue is really that the oscillatory (but not actually predictably cyclic) market has made ammo/component manufacturers categorically, ironclad, hidebound unwilling to make major capital investments in manufacturing capacity. They will dink and dork around the edges, but nobody is willing to sink billions into a giant new facility that won't be open for years and may sit idle (and drive your company bankrupt) once it finally opens.

 

[redrockranger]

Our public range has about 8"-10" of snow. People have been out there with hoes looking for brass .

 

[riflewoman]

In the aerospace game we used the concept of “manufacturing days”. Weekend days were not included as those were used to “catch up on the schedule.

there were about 260 of these days per year. So, if reloaders are 5% of the market you can cover that market by working in an extra 12 days. Voluntary overtime can cover that. Since we pay a “premium” for primers already, it is lost in the price.

but I also think that the reloading market is bigger than that.

 

[3Ackleys]

I live in the same town as you. Which LGS do you think is in trouble? IF you could get this done HOW would the product be distributed to those you think need it? How do you know where the primers are going? One of the stores here had primers a couple weeks ago and Sportsmans in BZN had primers last Friday so some are being shipped.

 

[jelenko]

but nobody is willing to sink billions into a giant new facility that won't be open for years and may sit idle (and drive your company bankrupt) once it finally opens

Exactly. And, they also face the unknown of what future regulations may restrict sales more than the usual demand cycles.

 

[pirate ammo]

Rent, lease, or whatever, then insurance, electric, water, damn taxes, and nothing but empty shelves, nope
can't stay open. Your wholesale sales rep. won't help you because you only ordered X amount last year
and another ordered XXXX, and that's who gets it. So, nothing left but to go home and plant watermelons.

 

[hogpatrol]

Must be only in certain locales. The three LGS I shop are doing a land office business in handguns and ARs. Of the three, two require appointments and have ammo, powder and bullets. NICS are at 4.3 million for January, highest on record for a single month. I don't see my LGSs going out of business anytime soon.

FBI's January gun background check statistics show people buying firearms at 'blistering pace,' expert says

The FBI conducted more than 4.3 million gun background checks in January 2021 – the highest number of checks completed during a single month in the agency’s recorded history – as one expert says the staggering figure indicates a "growing" demand for firearms from the American public.

www.foxnews.com