LABRADAR PROS AND CONS

[Dusty Stevens]

I have read this message chain from the start to the end today hoping to see some reference to my question, but no such luck.

Our local range which is 5 miles from the house and open year round has low baffles. When I say low they are low when one looks from the barrel on the bench to the target's at 100, 200 or 300 yards the baffles are no more than 2 feet above that imaginary line. Yes the baffles are to low, that is another story. The ground slopes down from the benches and the baffle heights were measured from the ground, not the benches thanks to the state contracting group who had them put in. I know of a couple people who have labradar's and have not been able to use them from the bench at the range. Shooting prone might work, I am not aware of any attempts with that and it is actively discouraged at that particular range (the only one that goes beyond 100 yards).

Do any of you have suggestions, comments or experience with a labradar unit where the range baffles are low. I am considering purchasing a labradar, but have reservations as explained above. I solicit your input, thanks

Has anybody tried to raise it up like on a tripod? I know at one range i shoot at they have walls every 25yds to put target stands on and my labradar loses the bullet sometimes at 50-75yds according to how i aim it

 

[fatelvis]

I have read this message chain from the start to the end today hoping to see some reference to my question, but no such luck.

Our local range which is 5 miles from the house and open year round has low baffles. When I say low they are low when one looks from the barrel on the bench to the target's at 100, 200 or 300 yards the baffles are no more than 2 feet above that imaginary line. Yes the baffles are to low, that is another story. The ground slopes down from the benches and the baffle heights were measured from the ground, not the benches thanks to the state contracting group who had them put in. I know of a couple people who have labradar's and have not been able to use them from the bench at the range. Shooting prone might work, I am not aware of any attempts with that and it is actively discouraged at that particular range (the only one that goes beyond 100 yards).

Do any of you have suggestions, comments or experience with a labradar unit where the range baffles are low. I am considering purchasing a labradar, but have reservations as explained above. I solicit your input, thanks

I'm watching for this answer as well. My range has the low baffles also...

 

[CADDIE5]

This is our ISRA 300 yd RANGE with the sound baffles at 300 and 200yds fatelvis is referring to. We have SMT Solo e targets and s7 server to get 300yd velocities but f class guys have Magnetospeed so they can find a node but have to reshoot to get accurate load development groups. Guys don't want to buy Labradar and find out it will not work here.

 

[SGK]

Finally fiddling with this thing and hoping to take it to the range on Sunday. I plan on using the JKL external trigger recommended here. I haven't yet purchased/created a better sighting solution.

What Distance Settings are people using for, say, 100 yard load development and what Trigger Level with the JKL external trigger?

(Also is FW (B) merely the version installed prior to A?)

 

[F Class John]

I have read this message chain from the start to the end today hoping to see some reference to my question, but no such luck.

Our local range which is 5 miles from the house and open year round has low baffles. When I say low they are low when one looks from the barrel on the bench to the target's at 100, 200 or 300 yards the baffles are no more than 2 feet above that imaginary line. Yes the baffles are to low, that is another story. The ground slopes down from the benches and the baffle heights were measured from the ground, not the benches thanks to the state contracting group who had them put in. I know of a couple people who have labradar's and have not been able to use them from the bench at the range. Shooting prone might work, I am not aware of any attempts with that and it is actively discouraged at that particular range (the only one that goes beyond 100 yards).

Do any of you have suggestions, comments or experience with a labradar unit where the range baffles are low. I am considering purchasing a labradar, but have reservations as explained above. I solicit your input, thanks

If your concern is the thing picking up shots then I have the solution. I owned one of these about a year ago and got so frustrated with it under the exact circumstances that you were talking that I sold it and bought a magnetospeed. Recently I picked up another lab radar but this time I bought the inertial/kinetic trigger from JKL and it has solved every problem I ever had. It has allowed me to put the LabRadar well behind the muzzle because it is looking for the shot when it feels a gun recoil you never miss a shot and everything gets picked up perfectly. It gives you so much flexibility and confidence it’s crazy.

https://jklprecision.com/product/labradar-trigger/

 

[PatMiles]

If your concern is the thing picking up shots then I have the solution. I owned one of these about a year ago and got so frustrated with it under the exact circumstances that you were talking that I sold it and bought a magnetospeed. Recently I picked up another lab radar but this time I bought the inertial/kinetic trigger from JKL and it has solved every problem I ever had. It has allowed me to put the LabRadar well behind the muzzle because it is looking for the shot when it feels a gun recoil you never miss a shot and everything gets picked up perfectly. It gives you so much flexibility and confidence it’s crazy.

https://jklprecision.com/product/labradar-trigger/

If using the JLK trigger, is it still necessary to position the LR next to the muzzle or could it be placed farther back and farther to the side of the rifle?

 

[Bill Norris]

Thanks John, I have not had a chance to even try my Labradar and I had not seen this before. I got it on order now.

 

[F Class John]

If using the JLK trigger, is it still necessary to position the LR next to the muzzle or could it be placed farther back and farther to the side of the rifle?

I put my a good foot behind the muzzle. It’s wonderful.

 

[PatMiles]

I put my a good foot behind the muzzle. It’s wonderful.

Using velcro to attach to the rifle?

 

[F Class John]

Using velcro to attach to the rifle?

Yep. And you want it at the front of the stock if possible. It still occasionally pick up shaking the gun or working the bolt and if it’s closer to the action that happens more. I have mine up as far forward if he stock.

 

[PatMiles]

Thanks for the info, I have one on the way.

 

[BIGMAC]

Lots of good info, do y’all have a picture/video of your JLK trigger sit-up on your rifle & LR
Thanks

 

[F Class John]

Lots of good info, do y’all have a picture/video of your JLK trigger sit-up on your rifle & LR
Thanks

Here ya go. First pic shows it on my wood stock but I have actually moved it more forward since the photo. Second photo shows it on my McMillan Kestros ZR and you can see it’s much more forward actually attached where the Z rail starts.

fwiw I did try attaching it to my Seb but the NEO is just too darn stable and doesn’t move enough to trigger it

 

[SGK]

What Distance Settings are people using for, say, 100 yard load development and what Trigger Level with the JKL external trigger?

(Also is FW (B) merely the version installed prior to A?)

Anyone? (It may be a dumbass question but I am wondering if the first distance has to be very short to get a muzzle vel figure)

(I've ordered some tubing to implement John's sighting solution)

 

[BIGMAC]

Here ya go. First pic shows it on my wood stock but I have actually moved it more forward since the photo. Second photo shows it on my McMillan Kestros ZR and you can see it’s much more forward actually attached where the Z rail starts.

fwiw I did try attaching it to my Seb but the NEO is just too darn stable and doesn’t move enough to trigger it
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F Class John,
Thanks so much for the pictures.

 

[BIGMAC]

Here ya go. First pic shows it on my wood stock but I have actually moved it more forward since the photo. Second photo shows it on my McMillan Kestros ZR and you can see it’s much more forward actually attached where the Z rail starts.

fwiw I did try attaching it to my Seb but the NEO is just too darn stable and doesn’t move enough to trigger it
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Just order a JLK trigger.
Thanks again.

 

[Ned Ludd]

If your concern is the thing picking up shots then I have the solution. I owned one of these about a year ago and got so frustrated with it under the exact circumstances that you were talking that I sold it and bought a magnetospeed. Recently I picked up another lab radar but this time I bought the inertial/kinetic trigger from JKL and it has solved every problem I ever had. It has allowed me to put the LabRadar well behind the muzzle because it is looking for the shot when it feels a gun recoil you never miss a shot and everything gets picked up perfectly. It gives you so much flexibility and confidence it’s crazy.

https://jklprecision.com/product/labradar-trigger/

John - I checked the info at link to JKL you provided, but I didn't see the answer to the following question: When using the inertial trigger, can you turn the sensitivity of the LabRadar acoustic trigger all the way down, or even turn it off completely? If so, not only would the kinetic trigger help prevent "missing" shots, it would also help prevent picking unwanted shots from adjacent shooters. Thanks.

 

[F Class John]

John - I checked the info at link to JKL you provided, but I didn't see the answer to the following question: When using the inertial trigger, can you turn the sensitivity of the LabRadar acoustic trigger all the way down, or even turn it off completely? If so, not only would the kinetic trigger help prevent "missing" shots, it would also help prevent picking unwanted shots from adjacent shooters. Thanks.

Yeah that’s pretty much what I’m finding. By setting it to trigger instead of Doppler it is only looking for shots that come from the JKL trigger. I get no random pick ups from anybody around me.

 

[Ned Ludd]

Yeah that’s pretty much what I’m finding. By setting it to trigger instead of Doppler it is only looking for shots that come from the JKL trigger. I get no random pick ups from anybody around me.

That's what I figured/hoped you would say. Thanks.

 

[Bill Norris]

Yeah that’s pretty much what I’m finding. By setting it to trigger instead of Doppler it is only looking for shots that come from the JKL trigger. I get no random pick ups from anybody around me.

That's what I was hoping for as well.