Issues with Damaged Boxes at Post Office

[J.d. Popkes]

Yeah, you go postal. Good one. You think they care. It’s not a private, for profit business, it’s the government. A unionized, government, entity. Somewhere in the founding documents it says they are a regulated monopoly.

This is what government looks like. Have them run healthcare. Look at any of the alphabet agencies. Why is Elon doing that doge thing?

But yeah, seem surprised, and get an attorney so you can take that stand. Or perhaps quit using them? Brown truck guy is union too, but still has to provide a service that people are willing to pay for.

 

[paperpuncher]

Its definitely turned into a sh*tshow there as of late. When I package things I will go the extra yard because I know they are not going to. Bulk the boxes up inside so they cant crush. Small parts in an envelope inside the box and taped to the inside of the box. Filament tape both ways and all seams. You have to make it bulletproof or you will get screwed.

 

[NorCalMikie]

You ever heard the term "fight city hall"? That's what you'll be doing going after the USPS.
PACK THE BOXES SO IT TAKES ALL DAY TO GET IT OPEN!! That way, no excuses!! Make them USPS Proof!!
Now, if you've got BIG $$$$ to burn and WILL live past 105 years, go for it and report back how you make out or, if you can't write anymore, have your care giver write the note for you so we'll the outcome.

Shipped a box of muzzleloader "parts" back East. to be built into a Flint Lock Fowler. Got there in good condition. Fowler got built and returned to me in EXCELLENT condition.
Shipping crate was built out of wood and the Fowler was padded/wrapped in plastic with spray on insulation foam all around it. Took almost an hour to get it open.
Post Master said it was THE BEST packing job he had EVER SEEN!!
You could have shipped a car engine in that crate!!

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

While in front of Congress, questioning about USPS delivery/costs the Postmaster General Louis Dejoy gave himself an "A". Than covered his ears like a child, repeatedly ignoring questions. I'm sure employees in the USPS system are not worried about their QA or their job status.

 

[ebb]

You used the box they supplied and their incompetent DEI employees destroyed it and lost your parts!!! Incredible, how can they refuse to pay off? Looks to me like they have painted themselves into a corner. Take the hard line with them and don't back down.

 

[Dave Way]

Do away with the US Postal Service altogether. Private companies will compete for the business. Competition brings efficiencies and lower costs and we know the service couldn’t be worse. Maybe it’s on the Trump agenda.

Dave.

 

[rlporter507]

Its definitely turned into a sh*tshow there as of late. When I package things I will go the extra yard because I know they are not going to. Bulk the boxes up inside so they cant crush. Small parts in an envelope inside the box and taped to the inside of the box. Filament tape both ways and all seams. You have to make it bulletproof or you will get screwed.
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yes this!!!!! gotta use lots of good tape and a box in a box. expect the worse.

 

[mike mccormick]

yes this!!!!! gotta use lots of good tape and a box in a box. expect the worse.

I have literally received empty boxes that had been taped up very well. The tape was cut. Buy no......no thieves in the sorting centers....

 

[Bc'z]

Unlike you/us, the box has no feelings.
As told to me by a postal worker.
Tape is your friend, shipping is the biggest time and money suck a shipper has.

 

[ELR LVR]

If you’re talking about the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, it’s being shut down as we speak.

As for the packaging strategies I agree package it as if you expect someone to try and destroy it. But that can only do so much. I review customer specs at my work and I’ve had a few come in saying that our crating should prevent damage during shipping and storage. Uh, hard no. Impossible. Nice try to make all shipping and storage incidents my responsibility Mr Customer by blaming everything on crates. (Our product is machinery so a forklift drop or on-road accident would be more than wooden crating could ever withstand)

I would say, it is the person shipping the items to be responsible for how well they are packaged
The receiver has no way of doing anything about this on their end.
I've had people throw items in a plastic baggie and put them in a box as if the plastic bag is somehow going to contain things???
This post is to also meant to help people understand
Treat your sent items as if they are the crown jewels or the microfiche for National Security
Wrp them well, padd them, tape them, tape them to inside of the box
Everything
Ive had people send me barrels for threading and same thing, box dinged and barrel dented on the end
I always recommend to people ----
---- to send barrel in PVC Pipe,, with Pipe Caps, then run a screw or 3 through the PVC into the pipe cap
Yeah it may be more expensive to send this way, but much cheaper than gambling a barrel
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Another idea, the priority mail boxes, You pay for those when shipping
MTM 50 boxes are about as cheap $(3) and can be used for a shipping container for small items
Thanks for you guys input

 

[ELR LVR]

I live 60 miles north of Birmingham and that Distribution Center is full of incompetent minorities!!! Example shown below. A parcel was supposed to come to me from MN........

Read this from the bottom up >>>--------->


Moving Through Network

Arrived at USPS Regional Facility

PHOENIX AZ DISTRIBUTION CENTER

February 13, 2025, 9:23 am

Departed USPS Facility

AVONDALE, AZ 85323

February 13, 2025, 5:41 am

Arrived at USPS Facility

AVONDALE, AZ 85323

February 12, 2025, 11:37 pm
Arrived at USPS Regional Facility

BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENTER

February 12, 2025, 10:40 am
In Transit to Next Facility

February 12, 2025, 9:10 am
Departed USPS Facility

PALMETTO, GA 30268

February 12, 2025, 7:47 am
Arrived at USPS Facility

PALMETTO, GA 30268

February 12, 2025, 2:53 am
In Transit to Next Facility

February 11, 2025, 9:13 pm
In Transit to Next Facility

February 11, 2025, 1:53 pm
Departed USPS Facility

SAINT PAUL, MN 55131

February 11, 2025, 6:35 am
Arrived at USPS Origin Facility

SAINT PAUL, MN 55131

February 11, 2025, 2:11 am
USPS picked up item

MORRISTOWN, MN 55052

February 10, 2025, 3:10 pm
Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item

MORRISTOWN, MN 55052

February 8, 2025, 9:14 am

That's nuts!
I would also say, try not to use the cheapest Ground method
Priority I have always had best luck with

 

[ELR LVR]

It doesn't matter how much insurance you buy for your item. USPS doesn't just pay that amount without any questions. Buying $1M worth of insurance on a $200 part only puts more $$ into USPS's hands. They wrote me a check for a little less than $100 on a $450 barrel they lost, stating that the barrel was not new (though it was unused) and they prorated the claim. You still have to prove to them that the item is indeed worth that $1M you say it is.

Telling folks to buy more insurance thinking that will make the USPS 'pay' is not a proper course of action.

This is the kind of thing why I believe a Lawyer would be able to file a major class action against them.
Look at things like how Wells Fargo got popped for excessive overdraft fees

 

[Bc'z]

Unlike you/us, the box has no feelings.
As told to me by a postal worker.
Tape is your friend, shipping is the biggest time and money suck a shipper has.

Shipping is the BIGGEST time and $$$ suck a shipper has.

 

[Bc'z]

Packages have no feelings

 

[Bc'z]

Write FRAGILE on a box....
The handlers will put it to the test!!

 

[ELR LVR]

One other aspect of shipping items to somebody else for work being done
I personally DO NOT want to have to make unnecessary repairs on something broken because somebody did not take the time to ship it properly
Not to sound harsh, but that is also not my responsibility
If I receive anything broken because you did not ship it/package it properly
.....I am shipping it right back to you and you can deal with the shipper

 

[J.d. Popkes]

This is the kind of thing why I believe a Lawyer would be able to file a major class action against them.
Look at things like how Wells Fargo got popped for excessive overdraft fees

Yes. I see how it’d be the same. Wells Fargo is not a government entity. Maybe try to sue the United States Navy. Sue the IRS too. OJ’s attorney won’t take that case. Stop it.

 

[ELR LVR]

Yes. I see how it’d be the same. Wells Fargo is not a government entity. Maybe try to sue the United States Navy. Sue the IRS too. OJ’s attorney won’t take that case. Stop it.

Yeah I know it's not the same
yet "SOME" people seem to have no balls to even fight at all
Get my drift, thinking its hopeless and give up before even trying , Screw that.
If that were our attitude how would Gun Rights being fought against STATE entities be going?
Not to get off topic
(BUT I've personally fought the state before a couple times, also for Gun Rights infringed upon and instantly received a Court Order to have my weapon returned, when most would have given up and wrote it off as a loss.......handled my own divorce, child custody proceedings, fought CPS etc, so I know how just one person can accomplish much)
---It's the PRINCIPLE of fighting these supposed untouchable large entities
"You have no rights unless you claim them"

 

[J.d. Popkes]

Yeah I know it's not the same
yet "SOME" people seem to have no balls to even fight at all
Get my drift, thinking its hopeless and give up before even trying , Screw that.
If that were our attitude how would Gun Rights being fought against STATE entities be going?
Not to get off topic
(BUT I've personally fought the state before a couple times, also for Gun Rights infringed upon and instantly received a Court Order to have my weapon returned, when most would have given up and wrote it off as a loss.......handled my own divorce, child custody proceedings, fought CPS etc, so I know how just one person can accomplish much)
---It's the PRINCIPLE of fighting these supposed untouchable large entities
"You have no rights unless you claim them"

While I agree and admire your enthusiasm, I’m a realist.

I’m an attorney, send me money and I’ll get to work on it Monday morning. We’re going to put the system on trial!!!!

 

[ELR LVR]

While I agree and admire your enthusiasm, I’m a realist.

I’m an attorney, send me money and I’ll get to work on it Monday morning. We’re going to put the system on trial!!!!

You seem to have the same attitude my attorney had After I gave him money and told him Im going to fight for my gun rights
Once paid, He asked how I supposed he should fight them
I took the case myself from there