Issues with Damaged Boxes at Post Office

[ELR LVR]

While I agree and admire your enthusiasm, I’m a realist.

I’m an attorney, send me money and I’ll get to work on it Monday morning. We’re going to put the system on trial!!!!

You seem to have the same attitude my attorney had After I gave him money and told him Im going to fight for my gun rights
Once paid, He asked how I supposed he should fight them
I took the case myself from there

 

[J.d. Popkes]

You seem to have the same attitude my attorney had After I gave him money and told him Im going to fight for my gun rights
Once paid, He asked how I supposed he should fight them
I took the case myself from there

Did you get the money back?

Didn’t think so. I will be your lawyer this time. Same deal.

 

[Bc'z]

@ELR LVR If by chance you ever get a package from me, I don't want to hear any pissin & moanin cuz it took you an hour to get to the prize inside.
Not all shippers give a shit, and you can bet the carrier don't.
You might go back and reread all my posts.

 

[ELR LVR]

Did you get the money back?

Now THAT, is actually funny

 

[ELR LVR]

@ELR LVR If by chance you ever get a package from me, I don't want to hear any pissin & moanin cuz it took you an hour to get to the prize inside.
Not all shippers give a shit, and you can bet the carrier don't.
You might go back and reread all my posts.

If it sounds like I'm pissin and moanin at all now?
Fine, although mission accomplished
That way it don't have to be done later
I want everyone to know your stuff is not my responsibility
---UNTIL it lands in my hands
Simple as that

 

[J.d. Popkes]

Now THAT, is actually funny

So we’re gonna make a deal?

 

[dgeesaman]

I would say, it is the person shipping the items to be responsible for how well they are packaged
The receiver has no way of doing anything about this on their end.
I've had people throw items in a plastic baggie and put them in a box as if the plastic bag is somehow going to contain things???

When i see a seller say "if you want insurance you'll have to add money for that" it's a red flag and I move on because clearly they don't really know anything about it. Because while shipping damage is largely out of anyone's control, the shipper controls the packaging and the buyer controls nothing.

In private party sales I'm a firm believer that the seller owns the responsibility of getting the goods to the buyer. That includes insurance (if the seller wants it) and robust packaging.

 

[ELR LVR]

So we’re gonna make a deal?

I'm looking for the kind of attorney that can handle a class action on a contigency fee
And realizing there are Mannnny people who would likely sign on to sue USPS
The same as one of my attorneys handled a wrongful death suit for me, nothing up front, no fees except for their percentage.
Or a like minded individual who can at least direct me in all the proper paperwork to file
I just found a case won against USPS with a settlement for $26 million
(Different circumstances but still a win against them)
I am already aware of the Federal Tort Claim Act of 1946
So the Sovereign Immunity doctrine does not always apply

 

[Bc'z]

If it sounds like I'm pissin and moanin at all now?
Fine, although mission accomplished
That way it don't have to be done later
I want everyone to know your stuff is not my responsibility
---UNTIL it lands in my hands
Simple as that

Yeah man it kinda does..
I ship a finished product that cost the consumer upward of 2K$$$$ every time I print a label, so his merchandise is my number 1 concern, unfortunately online box stores don't take the time or care that I do or that you'd like to receive.
Last time I'm gonna say this....
1-Shipping is the biggest time and money suck a shipper has to deal with
2 your package has no feelings, only you do!
3 Fragile means let's play football to a carrier
4. @J.d. Popkes really wants to represent you in this.

 

[Bc'z]

When i see a seller say "if you want insurance you'll have to add money for that" it's a red flag and I move on because clearly they don't really know anything about it. Because while shipping damage is largely out of anyone's control, the shipper controls the packaging and the buyer controls nothing.

In private party sales I'm a firm believer that the seller owns the responsibility of getting the goods to the buyer. That includes insurance (if the seller wants it) and robust packaging.

I include shipping in my costs, you want added insurance....
Well that's on you.
Trust me I package my product in a way I want to receive it.
Shipping insurance is a scam to get more money out of you to deliver the same parcel to the same location as normal rates.
I've only ever filed 2 claims, and both were denied.
Lessons learned

 

[ELR LVR]

Yeah man it kinda does..
I ship a finished product that cost the consumer upward of 2K$$$$ every time I print a label, so his merchandise is my number 1 concern, unfortunately online box stores don't take the time or care that I do or that you'd like to receive.
Last time I'm gonna say this....
1-Shipping is the biggest time and money suck a shipper has to deal with
2 your package has no feelings, only you do!
3 Fragile means let's play football to a carrier
4. @J.d. Popkes really wants to represent you in this.

it may be a money suck
However, I don't mind taking the extra time to package something well to ensure the customer receives it
and receives it in good condition.
I think that aspect of care helps build good repeat business

 

[ELR LVR]

I include shipping in my costs, you want added insurance....
Well that's on you.

Agreed, and am learning the whole extra insurance thing is a scam now
Especially after reading one persons barrel got "Prorated"
If you pay x amount of insurance, you have paid the fees they asked for and should be entitled to said amount of insurance paid for, not what "they think" its worth.
So many things the USPS should be answering for ya know?

 

[J.d. Popkes]

Yeah man it kinda does..
I ship a finished product that cost the consumer upward of 2K$$$$ every time I print a label, so his merchandise is my number 1 concern, unfortunately online box stores don't take the time or care that I do or that you'd like to receive.
Last time I'm gonna say this....
1-Shipping is the biggest time and money suck a shipper has to deal with
2 your package has no feelings, only you do!
3 Fragile means let's play football to a carrier
4. @J.d. Popkes really wants to represent you in this.

Better call Saul

 

[Bc'z]

it may be a money suck
However, I don't mind taking the extra time to package something well to ensure the customer receives it
and receives it in good condition.
I think that aspect of care helps build good repeat business

True, but all the online box store where we get all our goodies don't have the same view, and there ain't shit you n me can do about.

 

[Bc'z]

Better call Saul

I can't love it and laugh at the same time.

Edit.. it's after 5, wife went to casino.
You know I'm sippin!!

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Write FRAGILE on a box....
The handlers will put it to the test!!

My Postmaster told me the exact same thing.

 

[ELR LVR]

My Postmaster told me the exact same thing.

Ya know a thought,
They do ask before hand if there are any liquids, acids, toxic etc
maybe I'll check into shipping things that way, even if it cost more might be the same price as extra insurance
I do know when I order powder and primers and that Big Orange EXPLOSIVE sign is on the side,
they seem to respect the package more

 

[Emmett Dibble]

There has been too many of these threads… it’s simple STOP USING USPS. I know, YOUR post office is full of nice people, your post person is fantastic… the ape’s they hire behind the counter and at the hubs have got to be the worst examples (or best) of “government employees”. I quit shipping with them years ago. Set up your own personal UPS account, it’s easy. Yes, they damage stuff, they loose stuff, at a WAY smaller rate then USPS. (Knock on wood) I have yet to have anything shipped UPS destroyed or lost. Package it well, tape is your friend, attach THEIR label well so it can’t get destroyed easily, if you want the package oriented (this end up) a certain way put the label on TOP.

I am not a FTP type person but am definitely a FTUSPS person.

 

[JFrank]

Hello all,
so this is somewhat of a rant but also to inform all of you to BEWARE of sending any parts through the Post office right now
I have had 2 small boxes in a row arrived damaged this week
With things fallen out of the box
1 of which had 4 triggers inside.
Guess how many triggers showed up?
ZERO!
And they taped the empty bo back up with a little note basically saying
"Sorry, but hey we'll try and do better for you in the future, we appreciate your patience and all that happy BS"
but no info on how to get compensated
So when I go onto USPS website to file a claim
I get "this is the link you need to use to file a claim"
Click link
The link explains how to file a claim and I click on that
It reroutes me back to the same link I need to use to file a claim
like circular reasoning going nowhere and no page to actually file a claim
In effect making it impossible to even file a claim which I'm certain they figure if they make it difficult or confusing enough people will just give up and eat it
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I believe the POST OFFICE has gotten away with this crap far too long and needs a reality check big time with some hurtin goin to their innards with a Class Action.
Anybody else finding the same and willing try and pursue class action to force them to cough up some real compensation they likely have been not having to pay for some time now based on how their website makes it impossible
and make sure this crap doesn't happen to anybody else or yourself again.
A cardboard box this small and not heavy should be plenty sturdy enough to hold up to the mail
But now we have to use some steel toolbox or small money box or something just to ship with to make sure nothing gets damaged?
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Forget the insurance claim
Some of these gun parts are irreplaceable
Last week, I sent back a customers Canjar....and luckily thank God, that got back to him in one piece
BUT the box and payment he sent to me, somehow the check slipped out through the side (3rd Pic)
(it did eventually get recovered and returned to the original shipper, surprisingly)
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Point is, if it is happening this often and PO goes unchecked, nothing is safe.
These small Priority mail boxes for some reason are not holding up to whatever equipment they use
That is most important, you gents need to know this
I suggest insuring every box for $3000 now because with how often this happens spending $10 to ship something and the odds of damage is better than playing the Lotto.
And if they have to pay enough claims out, they WILL do something different.
You guys should insure every box for way over the amount its worth until their crap gets sorted out
Especially for things like triggers which are Expensive to replace

I would have put a complete layer of clear shipping tape on that box ~ maybe a double layer considering the content.

 

[ELR LVR]

I would have put a complete layer of clear shipping tape on that box ~ maybe a double layer considering the content.

I do wrap my boxes in that way, wrap tape all the way around, and on both ends
and "fully" tape over the label expecting it to get snagged or ripped.
I suggest the same for everyone as well.