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Electric Cars -- anyone own one?

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Its some of the cheapest in the country- i work for the utility. Its $.11-12/kwhr. It was a company car so it wasnt driven too hard but was plugged in every day in my garage. That only lasted 1mo- my company paid for gas but didnt pay my electric bill. Never plugged it in again and that lasted for 80,000mi. I will say out of all the electric cars out there the volt was by far my favorite. It looked good and ran off gas getting 70mpg. A plug in hybrid is the only way to go in my opinion. I can drive from coast to coast and never stop at a charger, or i can stop at chargers and never get gas- whatever you want to do. Hate to see they quit making it. Every other option is way too ugly or like a tesla is electric only.

That's really odd .....

The Volt has a 18 kWh battery. Let's say, accounting for losses in the car, it takes 20 kWh to go from 0% to 100%. At .12 / kWh that's $2.40 per day....or $74 per month.

I wonder if there was something wrong with the car?
 
I agree with some here ,electric cars would be nice ,yet WHY are we expected to suffer GROWING PAINS and Not local state and Federal employees ?. After all aren't they now making the HUGE money !.

Don't know how many of you remember the old car buy out some years back ,another back stabbing scam which cost TAXPAYERS PLENTY !.

And as I said previously ; Let Gov. agencies be the benefactor's of " Clean Energy " !.

Sorry if I seem skeptical but I've been around the block more than a few times and smell a stench ,when our Gov. doesn't at least make a gesture for agencies such as USPS to begin transitioning ,the oder is horrendus !.

After all for $ 0.01 per gallon of fuel increase , that cost us TAXPAYERS $1.3 Million per day back in 1992 for USPS alone . Now $667 million per day as of last week when I calculated fuel at today's cost !.

PS : I under estimated ,as I don't have all #50 States fuel cost or number of postal vehicles any longer .

It's not like it's the Governments money , IT'S OUR MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Your great grand kids are beyond their ability to pay our debt now !. Some day the piper will demand payment and the USA will be stark naked !

Some how politicians who were failures in practicing the law and making the law but excellent liars , are now some sort of math genius's ,by bringing in millions of illegal immigrants ; Which helps WHO and HOW ?
 
That's really odd .....

The Volt has a 18 kWh battery. Let's say, accounting for losses in the car, it takes 20 kWh to go from 0% to 100%. At .12 / kWh that's $2.40 per day....or $74 per month.

I wonder if there was something wrong with the car?
I heard all that too. The car had 3mi on it when it was dropped off and never had so much as a check engine light the whole time i had it, and that was a chevy charger i had on the wall
 
Truth of the matter is until China, India, Soviet Union start cleaning up there coal plants we are just pissing up a rope.

You're not just whistling Dixie brother . People just can't seem to fathom the truth ,this Planet Earth is constantly evolving ,as in evolutionary changes and what we humans do ,is of little to NO consequences !.

Volcanic activity ISN'T a by product of Co2 or Hydrocarbon emissions or how much oil is taken out of the Earth or 10 million 55 CC powered ICE leaf blowers . The BIG picture is our Planet is shifting axis and volcanic activity is UP WORLD WIDE . And that does Emit a crap load of Co2 .

If politicians and scientist were serious about curbing pollution , they'd be shutting down 50% of ALL Shipping and Air Transportation WORLD WIDE and insisting manufacturing be done at point of consumption !. Yes it really is just that easy ,except for the GREED and Power factors involved !!!.
 
Your last statement meaning about companies that went belly up? If that's what you're asking for an explanation of my take is this: New technologies, when they're especially new and especially unproven, have lots of failures - because they're new and unproven and not well understood. I'm not going to try and justify any sort of bad government programs that didn't produce results - because they're not justifiable.

You stated there are studies that show total lifecycle ramifications of gas cars is lower than with electric vehicles. I've found the opposite. Below is a link to one. My understanding is the production of the EV is harder on the environment than a gas car, but factoring in differences in operation (including extracting oil, refining and transport of the gasoline) swings the advantage balance to the EV side.

Progress is being made on numerous fronts to improve the EV ecosystem: New chemicals are looking positive to base batteries on. Coal (which only accounts for 20% of US electricity production) is being reduced. The lifespan of the batteries, I believe, will be longer than what many think. People will often point to an 8 year battery life. That's how long the warranty is - not the lifespan. I've heard anecdotal stories of Teslas with hundreds of thousands of miles on them. Lastly, with home solar systems becoming much more prominent, those systems can be (and in my case is) the basis for charging the car. We cover approximately 80-90% of our daily driving needs without pulling any electrons from the grid.

The bottom line for me is this: I've seen a lot of technological advances in my life (as have we all) and I believe EVs are in a state today where, while clearly not perfect, are on the path for massive advances. I think there's sufficient interest and demand from the market where car companies and the market will keep improving on them...in all areas.

"global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars"

Perhaps the author does not understand where electrons come from and how many of them are lost while being transported to the nearest charger.
 
Doesn't the National Electrical Code require any branch circuit to have a maximum voltage drop of 3% at maximum amperage ? I think that transmission line loss is on average 5% at nominal load. It has been a while since I used the voltage drop calculations so maybe the electrons changed their habits.
 
Truth of the matter is until China, India, Soviet Union start cleaning up there coal plants we are just pissing up a rope.
John Kerry said that if USA completely quite using fossil fuels all at once it would not make any difference?????? So why do they want us to suffer and buy oversea fuel which is a bunch dirtier than we make and causes a lot more pollution then we do? If they really cared about the environment we would be an energy independent and exporter of energy. They are causing a lot more harm to the environment by not doing this. Does anyone believe that Russia,China, or any of the middle east country's care about pollution over making money????
 
I found this quite interesting and I presume we'll researched:
I found the website to be very interesting. For a reference I took the video about the Texas grid failure to check creditability. My recollection is that the main causes of the failure were that Texas never connected to the national electrical grid to supply power in these situations and that the pipelines had no trace heating to allow gas and oil to flow when the temperature drops. I am not going to support or condemn either of these facts only that they were never mentioned in the video. Wind and solar were not the problem. I can see how we all differ so much in our political views when information can be presented any way the person who has something to gain wants it to be perceived. Follow the money.
 
Not into EVs BUT, still Gun related. ;) Been thinking.
32 Ford 2 door sedan, room in the back for guns and range gear.
Glass weight saving body, set up with Tesla running gear, should go 250/300 miles on a charge and get there DAMN FAST if needed.

Never seen one from underneath so not sure how they work.
Batteries go in front in place of the engine, same weight so handle the same OR, motor in the front and batteries mid frame? Electric AC? Probably shorten the driving distance but at least you would be :cool: AND cool.
Not sure how to set up the IRS like a Jag or any FWD car with the motor in the back. Axles like most FWD cars. Motor/trans look to be like any IFS unit?? Got to be a way. Body,frame with no running gear leaves EVERYTHING up to the builders choice.
One thing FOR SURE, recording of exhaust and spinning tires. ;)

"Vintage Voltage" TV shows modifications to Vintage Sports Cars but a body, frame with no running leaves the builder a blank canvas to work with. You don't have to work around "anything", just build it to YOUR specs. :)
 
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I can see how we all differ so much in our political views when information can be presented any way the person who has something to gain wants it to be perceived. Follow the money.
Yup, that’s why we all need to interrogate multiple sources of information (including those we may disagree with) and review them critically before taking action!
 
It takes around 35 Killowatt hours (KWH) to run a Tesla 100 miles. I pay $.09 per KWH here is Florida - was looking at the bill. Therefore the price in electricity to go 100 miles is just over $3. Now that does not factor in the $500 for the charger and other things you need to actually charge one.

Read in California that some places electricity costs as much as $.40 per KWH. That would make it $14 per 100 miles to run an electric vehicle. You can do the rest of the math to compare to gas/diesel costs.
 
I can see how we all differ so much in our political views when information can be presented any way the person who has something to gain wants it to be perceived. Follow the money.
Near me— you are sure right about this stuff- Not much truth telling out there these days
 
I have not been on mine in 8 years it sits in the garage because of a refusal to believe I can't ride anymore.
With all the lumbar surgeries (8) and a 5.5-year battle with cancer resulting in removal of entire urinary trac, I have now succumbed to the realization that my riding days are finished, so my Harley goes on the for-sale block within the next month. It will be a sad day, lifelong love of riding coming to an end.
Sorry to hear that. I too have had a battle not with cancer so much but side effects of the treatments. Colon cancer radiation treatments literally fried nerves in my lower back. First indication was when severe drop foot came on some 9 months after treatment ended. I was in a wheel chair within 3 months with a prognosis of remaining there the rest of my life. My legs quickly atrophied and became what I called those of a 12 year old skinny anorexic girl. Once neurology exhausted their options I spent 2016 going to a physical therapist. The idea being preserving what muscle control I had left. I wheeled in and walked out a year later. Today it's braces and a cane but I'm able to get around and ride the bike. Safely!

I've had other complications from both the treatments and a hernia. Hernia mesh gone bad almost killed me with infection. Some 20% of my large intestine removed has ensured Depends will stay in business for at least the next few years.

And not a battery of any kind involved in any of it.........

Gotta throw out something for the topic. :)
 
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