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M-61 said:Quote from fguffey:
"I like the primers setting on their sides. "
I have to ask WHY?
fguffey said:M-61 said:Quote from fguffey:
"I like the primers setting on their sides. "
I have to ask WHY?
a reloader/shooter was in the bad habit of carrying his loaded ammo to the range in baggies. One day he drobed a bag, one of the primers struck the rim of another case, when the primer went off it pushed off from the case and hit the shooter in the inside of his leg. They say he almost bled to death before they could stop the bleeding.
If the primers are on their edge the primer can not push itself off, the blast is contained and the primer stays in the package.
F. Guffey
That doesn't make sense..
fguffey said:Then there was that story about a FedX driver blowing his tail gate off, I do not believe that happened.
amlevin said:fguffey said:Then there was that story about a FedX driver blowing his tail gate off, I do not believe that happened.
Funny, I heard it was an airplane crash caused by Federal Primers that caused them to change their packaging.
I guess it just depends on which gun shop you go to.
I know a guy that that was showing his anealer to another guy. The case he annealed a couple of times and his anealer dumps the cases out when done. It was laying on the counter and went off. The case went across the room and the primer went into his abdomen. He went to the hospital and they x-rayed him and said they wouldn't remove it. They said they would do more damage trying to find it and it would heal and cause no problems. I think the problem with the Federal Primers was because a forklift driver ran over a case and set them off. They made them use the current holders to transport after that. Mattzillla said:fguffey said:M-61 said:Quote from fguffey:
"I like the primers setting on their sides. "
I have to ask WHY?
a reloader/shooter was in the bad habit of carrying his loaded ammo to the range in baggies. One day he drobed a bag, one of the primers struck the rim of another case, when the primer went off it pushed off from the case and hit the shooter in the inside of his leg. They say he almost bled to death before they could stop the bleeding.
If the primers are on their edge the primer can not push itself off, the blast is contained and the primer stays in the package.
F. Guffey
That doesn't make sense.. Not sayin it didn't happen, but I'd have to see it. I have experience with discharging ammo that is loose and not in a chamber. Every time the bullet doesn't go far and the case takes off..
JohnKielly said:Nevertheless, Lee Precision still carries warnings about the dangers of primers despite the redesign of their tools. Though they don't specify brands these days, it seems evident who they're talking about:
The packaging in which the primers are shipped seems to have a direct correlation to the probability of mass detonation. The larger the shipping package, the more likely a mass detonation could occur.
http://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/90250.pdf
http://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/PT1204.pdf
The packaging in which the primers are shipped seems to have a direct correlation to the probability of mass detonation. The larger the shipping package, the more likely a mass detonation could occur.
Funny thing is that ONLY Lee puts out those warnings. I wonder how much of that is R. Lee's personal issue with Federal. Maybe they ignored him once and he's carried a chip on his shoulder since then.
Heck, if reloading manufacturers can't even agree on proper reloading methods, how could one ever expect agreement from the hordes of keyboard shooters.
\bobm said:Just one more, Snert. Back in my younger days a couple of beers gave me the courage to put a CCI 200 on the heating coil of our kitchen stove. My wife was not home to supervise me. I hit the dial and ran for cover. Seconds later the stove hood had a little dent on it from the inside. Extreme speed anvil, ya see. We're talking avocado 70's color. She never noticed it.![]()
Lee once warned against certain specific primer types, but now, since they have installed an isolating mechanism into their primer seaters, has softened their warning to state that the relative risk of priming tray content detonating directly relates to the complexity of packaging.
I'm always amused that some people seem to be prepared to accept....
LHSmith said:Speer began a campaign ad shortly thereafter stating not to use Lee's Factory Crimp Die on their bullets that don't have a cannelure. Heck, if reloading manufacturers can't even agree on proper reloading methods, how could one ever expect agreement from the hordes of keyboard shooters. :![]()