tom
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Alpha 6BRA brass
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tom
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I haven't taken things that far. Years back I set one up for .002 total clearance and struggled with that set up. Went back to +-.003 and haven't seen a reason to change. There's damn good shooters running no turn chambers as well, but I haven't had the balls to try it yet lol.
Tom
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Round one of the "tournament" started today.
Best tunes for each, and an example of a group ripped off from some extras in group fashion rather than the round robin fashion for the tests. Conditions were squirrely, but spread out evenly throughout the two tests. Alpha 4 was powder tested yesterday and alpha 1 last weekend, so in the future I'll do tuning Saturday and versus on Sunday.
Tom
Best tunes for each, and an example of a group ripped off from some extras in group fashion rather than the round robin fashion for the tests. Conditions were squirrely, but spread out evenly throughout the two tests. Alpha 4 was powder tested yesterday and alpha 1 last weekend, so in the future I'll do tuning Saturday and versus on Sunday.
Tom
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DHuffman
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Appreciate the updates.
Here's a question likely without an answer yet but I'll ask it anyway. As I understand it you are testing flash hole size so are you essentially tuning the flash hole to your platform, componenents, bullets, powder, primers, chamber, barrel etc. or in other words just because a particular flash hole size is going to favor your platform and components that doesn't mean it will favor everyone else's correct?
Different lots or brands of powder and or primers could possibly favor a different size flash hole and there would be know way to know for sure without testing in your own platform..
I've got nothing but respect for your work here and recognize the effort you have into and thank you for sharing it but I'm curious if you think your findings are going to be the rule without exception for everyone else's platform and components or to take advantage of your findings that flash hole size does show a preference a guy is going to need multiple sets of various size flash hole brass to test it out in his own platform?
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Too early to really tell, but I'll donate one barrel/tie up one platform to do what I can. About all I can do is tune them all on 400s the best I can, and do head to head enough times to "conclude a winner". Then, suppose since I'm low on br4s and 205s, I will do the same with 450s??...Maybe the results will mirror or flip flop. If they flip flop......well I guess it was a waste of time and components. At some point one of them will be "best in this barrel", but does that mean it's best in the next barrel? I won't have that answer until we see a trend over a period of YEARS, and that will be all of us, as this barrel will be holding up my target board by then
.Tom
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What I know so far.....as of today anyway.
I'm no longer afraid of .080" orifices.
Also not afraid of a teeny weenie in extreme cold.
Firing the first time, and then uniforming with my old Hart adjustable cutter was not a problem. However they do have a sort of "go-stop-go" feeling while priming.
They will shoot competitive groups, as they're currently made and sold.
What I don't know....as of today anyway.
Pretty much anything else lol.
Tom
I'm no longer afraid of .080" orifices.
Also not afraid of a teeny weenie in extreme cold.
Firing the first time, and then uniforming with my old Hart adjustable cutter was not a problem. However they do have a sort of "go-stop-go" feeling while priming.
They will shoot competitive groups, as they're currently made and sold.
What I don't know....as of today anyway.
Pretty much anything else lol.
Tom
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Ranger188
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You have to remember this pertains to mostly what Tom is shooting.
He is just posting what is working with his barrel, his action, his temps
and altitude, his primers, bullets, powder, neck tension, etc. To find out if this would work
for everyone else, he would need to change barrels, primers and place he shoots.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have that time and resources to do all that.
Take this info for what it is, a test in his conditions and components for him
to shoot smaller.
He is just posting what is working with his barrel, his action, his temps
and altitude, his primers, bullets, powder, neck tension, etc. To find out if this would work
for everyone else, he would need to change barrels, primers and place he shoots.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have that time and resources to do all that.
Take this info for what it is, a test in his conditions and components for him
to shoot smaller.
What I truly appreciate is shooters who are willing to help and think outside the box. Yes Tom is exploring new avenues and testing in conditions that most of us will never do. Thank you Tom and Alex for trying to expand the sport, your results may not help all but you are trying to help all. You have my utmost admiration. Thank you.
I have followed Toms and Alex’s posts for quite some time. The crew in Montana are not stupid, they do post unbiased truthful information which will help. I shoot in a completely different environment but there information has been extremely beneficial in my shooting experience. I have been shooting completely at 1000 yds for more than 30 years. Successful people open their eyes to new ideas and thinking. Nothing remains stagnant. Someday I would like to have the opportunity to meet them and shoot at their range.
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When Alpha came along with their brass it seemed that a lot of guys didn't want the .080" flash hole. The common knowledge was that .060 was best. But I have never seen the data. Who did the testing and under what conditions? I have never seen it published or even heard from someone with first hand knowledge of the testing. Even if it was done, Id bet it was in a ppc and would it even apply to the dasher or bra case with the powders we run? Alpha was on board to get me some brass without holes so we can test ANY size, so we are on board to see what can be learned.
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