urbanrifleman
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A copper remover test
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I'm very curious can Boretech destory your copper brush? Because KG-12 did
urbanrifleman
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All copper removers destroy brushes?
I tried M-Pro 7 Copper Remover, Hoppe's ammonia base cleaner, it turned my rod/brush blue but didn't dissolve it. The KG-12 darken it and some wire fell off. It's a different level of destroy I'm talking about.
DShortt
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Agreed. I might not have explained it well but what I was getting at was that while the Bore Tech Copper Remover is very effective I can not say the same for Bore Tech C4 Carbon Remover at removing carbon.
I'm about set on the idea that most anything will remove loose carbon and fouling but for the stubborn stuff in the neck and the black streaks in the bore you're going to need JB, Losso or a similar abrasive.
Those without a borescope will have no idea what this refers to.
urbanrifleman
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The copper remover is just half of the Boretech eliminator. I called and asked the manufacturer and they said that the same product is in eliminator. It seems redundant to buy two products when the one product does both exactly the same.
DShortt
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Brushes are cheap. Toss 'em after a few uses unless you're going to wrap a patch around them and use an abrasive.
If you just can't stand to do that after using copper solvent rinse them in electrical wash, alcohol, acetone or some other solvent. Don't wait, rinse the brush as soon as you're done with it.
DShortt
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Could be, all I've tried is the copper solvent and C4. I've tried a bunch of other products that claim to remove carbon but none have worked for me. I'll stick to JB for carbon until something changes my mind.
The C4 doesn't do squat in my barrels.
Mark W
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I agree with this statement except for KG -12. When I received my teslong bore scope, ordered over $200 in different cleaning products to try on various barrels. KG-12 was by far the best at removing copper in my barrels. With that said, I don’t need to use KG-12 as part of my regular cleaning regimen, but I do use Boretech Eliminator.
@urbanrifleman
Have you tried Montana Xtreme Copper Killer? It's worked to best for me out of several products I've tried for both copper and carbon.
It's the only thing that's kept a carbon ring out of my barrel since it appeared. I was using Boretech before. I don't remember the model, but it was the one intended to remove carbon fouling.
ETA, it was Boretech C4 carbon remover and it did not prevent or remove carbon rings.
Have you tried Montana Xtreme Copper Killer? It's worked to best for me out of several products I've tried for both copper and carbon.
It's the only thing that's kept a carbon ring out of my barrel since it appeared. I was using Boretech before. I don't remember the model, but it was the one intended to remove carbon fouling.
ETA, it was Boretech C4 carbon remover and it did not prevent or remove carbon rings.
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urbanrifleman
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I think that stuff is dangerous. Even if it was 5 percent better (which I don't think it is), the utterly poisonous ammonia fumes wouldn't be worth any minor improvement.
Dusty Stevens
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The reason for the seperate cleaners is some guys, especially rimfire, like to only remove the carbon and not the lead or copper so its quicker to get fouled in
I kind of like the way it smells.
urbanrifleman
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I heard the guy that used to be the original owner is dead from that stuff.
I haven't heard of anyone dying from a gun cleaning product before. I'd really like to hear more about how he died. I'll send them an email and see if I can get any info.
DShortt
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Lots of cases of lung damage and cancers from inhaled fumes and skin absorption from a lot of chemicals.
I wear nitrile gloves and work in a ventilated area whenever I can. Might not be necessary but it sure can't hurt.
I've no idea who created the solvent or if exposure to the ingredients caused his demise. Just mentioning standard safety practices.
I wear nitrile gloves and work in a ventilated area whenever I can. Might not be necessary but it sure can't hurt.
I've no idea who created the solvent or if exposure to the ingredients caused his demise. Just mentioning standard safety practices.
urbanrifleman
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AHHH!!!! Well, that makes sense.
urbanrifleman
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Ammonia is bad. Mkay?
I think you could literally drink Boretech.
I think you could literally drink Boretech.
DShortt
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I definitely wouldn't try that with the Copper Remover that I have. It has a definite strong ammonia smell. I haven’t found anything yet that will remove copper that doesn't reek of ammonia but it might be out there somewhere. The C4 Carbon Remover has very little odor and looks clear as water but as I stated previously, I can't tell that it does anything, on copper or carbon either. If you spit on a patch and swabbed it I doubt you'd see any difference between it and the C4.
Again, I haven't tried the Eliminator so I can't say anything one way or another about it.
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