6 creedmoor or 243

[457ciSBC]

So I'll be rebarreling a savage model 10 predator, id have to switch over my magazine to something that accepts aics mags to get decent follow up shot?

In the context of a BR cartridge yes.Whereas, a longer body cartridge (XC, CM) would be more conducive to feeding from a stock magazine form factor.I‘m pretty I’m going to setup my BRA just like the BR, single shot with no ejector.

 

[457ciSBC]

I don't currently reload, although I was gifted a press and other such tools.to.get started, so I definately will be reloading in near future. I'llhave to do some research on the 6xc, thanks

If you decide on the 6XC, I have some brass to get you started.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

Slightly different problem, I was given a m700 243 adl, wood stock. I was also given(another person) about 120 rds of older handloaded ammo(included 37 rounds factory Federal rounds). I don't have any dies, bullets( until I pull the handloads) for any .243 caliber rifle, no centerfire deer season near me, no groundhog to speak off, no ranges over 300 yards. It is a barely used nice light weight rifle, I just can't come up with a reason not to make a 22-250 or even a 20-250 out of it.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

How will a case with just about 1gr (the Creedmoor) more case capacity and just about the same neck length and same shoulder angle as the XC have 800 rounds shorter barrel life? For all purposes its just about the same case

Just going on brass availability I would choose the Creedmoor

The 800 rds LESS ( approx. ) was for the .243 Win AND, the 500 rds LESS was for, the Creedmoor !
It's,.. a FACT ! Lotsa whining about, 6 Creed's,.. bbl life !
Guys are trending to smaller Cases like, the 6 GT in PRS,.. ask yourself,.. WHY !
PS; My liking of, the 6 XC is, just MY,. opinion ( after MUCH research ) And it's looks like, the Vote is trending to 6 XC for the OP's next Barrel,. see LIKES on Posts made,.. in FAVOR of, IT !
Hornady just didn't want to PAY David Tubb to use his Cartridge Design, SADLY or, the 6 XC would be even MORE,. popular !

 

[457ciSBC]

The 800 rds LESS ( approx. ) was for the .243 Win AND, the 500 rds LESS was for, the Creedmoor !
It's,.. a FACT ! Lotsa whining about, 6 Creed's,.. bbl life !
Guys are trending to smaller Cases like, the 6 GT in PRS,.. ask yourself,.. WHY !
PS; My liking of, the 6 XC is,.. just MY,. opinion !

Speaking of smaller cases, earlier I didn’t throw out there the 6XC’s daddy.....the 6x47 Swiss Match. The cartridge that inspired Tubbs switch to 6mm.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

The 6 Swiss Match IS, a "Dandy" and has, LONG Barrel "Life", too !
I like the Long Neck ! Very Popular, in Europe,.. I'm told !

 

[457ciSBC]

The 6 Swiss Match IS, a "Dandy" and has, LONG Barrel "Life", too !
I like the Long Neck ! Very Popular, in Europe,.. I'm told !

IIRC, there was one vendor in the states that carried 6x47SM brass but it was sporadic and the quanity was minimal. Then RUAG stopped importing it all together. Tubb tried to get them to import it again, but apparently they were not interested in setting up a N.A distributorship. Hence him creating something similar with a minimal forming effort, fireforming 22-250 brass into his 6XC cartridge. Then of course Lapua came along with their “47” version. I bet things would have been different if RUAG 6x47SM brass would have been readily available.

I‘m not even sure if the RUAG brass is even produced anymore. I was lucky enough to have someone send me some from across the pond ages ago. With the availability of Lapua 47 brass, it’s easily formed by just running it into the 6x47SM FL die.

 

[MQ1]

Looking for a gun to shoot ground hogs or as some of you call them wood chucks. I've been leaning towards a 6 creedmoor but there aren't too many of them out there for sale and it got me thinking if I would be better off with a 243. Do have some places where a 600 yard shot is feasible, and I want a gun that is capable and repeatable. Obviously bullet selection for 6 creedmoor really.can reach out there, and most 243 1:10 twist won't stabilize heavier bullets. What are your thoughts?

I don’t think you will regret it if go with a .243. It gives you superior options for buying ready made ammo, and you are not at any tangible disadvantage if you reload your own. Brass for a .243 is plentiful, and you have great options there.

I’ve had straight 243’s that have shot incredible! Some factory barrels that out performed many custom barrels. I have a number of wildcats based on the .243 and while I enjoy fiddling with them, they only offer minimal advantages over a .243 for hunting groundhogs.

MQ1

 

[wbm]

David Tubb also won across the course High Power matches with the 243....but 6xc is a better "mouse trap"....if you reload.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

IIRC, there was one vendor in the states that carried 6x47SM brass but it was sporadic and the quanity was minimal. Then RUAG stopped importing it all together. Tubb tried to get them to import it again, but apparently they were not interested in setting up a N.A distributorship. Hence him creating something similar with a minimal forming effort, fireforming 22-250 brass into his 6XC cartridge. Then of course Lapua came along with their “47” version. I bet things would have been different if RUAG 6x47SM brass would have been readily available.

I‘m not even sure if the RUAG brass is even produced anymore. I was lucky enough to have someone send me some from across the pond ages ago. With the availability of Lapua 47 brass, it’s easily formed by just running it into the 6x47SM FL die.

The 6x47 Lapua is a fun little cat too!

 

[RegionRat]

In the last few years, the availability of factory brass for what used to require fire-form work makes some of the 6mm calibers much easier. 6 Dasher, 6 BRA, etc., make those better options than the past.

 

[EOD Rob]

Looking for a gun to shoot ground hogs or as some of you call them wood chucks. I've been leaning towards a 6 creedmoor but there aren't too many of them out there for sale and it got me thinking if I would be better off with a 243. Do have some places where a 600 yard shot is feasible, and I want a gun that is capable and repeatable. Obviously bullet selection for 6 creedmoor really.can reach out there, and most 243 1:10 twist won't stabilize heavier bullets. What are your thoughts?

If you are sticking with a choice of these two caliber, which are both readily available in Ohio, I would keep only one thing in mind. 243 rifle in the area normally come in a slower twist then the 6 Creed. This will limit you with heavier bullets for getting out to that 600 make. I love the 243, but they have always been that way. Sometimes you will find a savage with a faster twist, but 6 Creed normally comes in a 1-8" vs the 1-10" or slower. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[457ciSBC]

In the last few years, the availability of factory brass for what used to require fire-form work makes some of the 6mm calibers much easier. 6 Dasher, 6 BRA, etc., make those better options than the past.

Yes, no doubt.

 

[john pruitt]

Looking for a gun to shoot ground hogs or as some of you call them wood chucks. I've been leaning towards a 6 creedmoor but there aren't too many of them out there for sale and it got me thinking if I would be better off with a 243. Do have some places where a 600 yard shot is feasible, and I want a gun that is capable and repeatable. Obviously bullet selection for 6 creedmoor really.can reach out there, and most 243 1:10 twist won't stabilize heavier bullets. What are your thoughts?

I have both but the 6 want do anything the 243 can not do I re load have not noticed it wearing my barrels out.

 

[EOD Rob]

I have both but the 6 want do anything the 243 can not do I re load have not noticed it wearing my barrels out.

Most of us that are not shooting Comp, will have a 6 Creed for a very long time before shooting out a barrel I'll shoot several hundred rounds a year with mine and it will be good for years to come!

 

[Jtate]

I have a couple of 6 creed, 243's, 6br and dasher, If you don't reload just get a 243. keep your life simple. You can still find Remington 700 at Walmart for $389. put a trigger in it, and spend as much as you can on scope, go have fun.

 

[MQ1]

Looking for a gun to shoot ground hogs or as some of you call them wood chucks. I've been leaning towards a 6 creedmoor but there aren't too many of them out there for sale and it got me thinking if I would be better off with a 243. Do have some places where a 600 yard shot is feasible, and I want a gun that is capable and repeatable. Obviously bullet selection for 6 creedmoor really.can reach out there, and most 243 1:10 twist won't stabilize heavier bullets. What are your thoughts?

...another word from experience...I doubt that for hunting groundhogs you’ll need much more than a 70 or 80 gr Varmint bullet like a Speer TNT (my 70gr favorite) or an 80 gr. Berger Varmint (my 80 gr favorite). Check out your options for Varmint bullets off the shelf and compare what is available for your potential cartridges and you may find your answer there...

MQ1

 

[Tommie]

Do what I did. It’s the coolest.

 

[EOD Rob]

Do what I did. It’s the coolest.1

What did you do Tommie? Because no one can see it!

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

Tommie's probably, ONE of the "Cool Kids",. shooting, a 6 XC !
Early on, I heard that term used for,.. 6 XC shooters !
Did "we" come up with, a consensus on THE best,.. 6 MM Ground Hogging, Cartridge ???
IT,. never, ends on, HERE ,.. LOL