Barrel life 800-1100 rounds!

[Gary in MD]

I'm still chuckling at all this talk about barrel life.
My 20VT just passed the 5k round count from the rat patch last season and is still shooting in the .2" range, which is well into "minute of rat".

It's all about the right tool for the job. Unless one is either wealthy or just don't give a hoot, leave that 22-250 at home if you intend to blast away at pd's or squirrels all weekend and have a "new barrel fund" at home.

During a rat shoot some years ago here, friend Steve Hanson, the author of A Varmint Hunter's Odyssey brought a fellow along who had a beautiful full custom 22-250 and proceeded blasting away at the sage rats with wanton abandon. By mid-morning of the 2nd day, he couldn't hit chit, and a peek down the barrel revealed what could be described as the inside of a sewer pipe, devoid of rifling in the first 12" inches.

I really enjoyed that book and learned a few things too.

 

[Tommie]

Guarantee you will in a 22-250 in a heavy rat or P.D patch look at post #2.
Some of you obviously have never shot 800- 1000 round days

Nah. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You shooting a machine gun or what?!

 

[Bronsin]

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22 Creed is going ridiculously fast for such a lightweight bullet.

That's the whole point.......

 

[dellet]

Pretty sure Franz Albrecht could burn out a barrel in day.

 

[GetReal]

That's the whole point.......

And if a person can afford a new Barrel every thousand rounds without using taxpayer money or government welfare then I fully support their choice

 

[GetReal]

Guarantee you will in a 22-250 in a heavy rat or P.D patch look at post #2.
Some of you obviously have never shot 800- 1000 round days

It's amazing how some people manage to miss the point being made and the basis of the rationale used

Hint: the point is not that no one can ever possibly burn out a barrel in a bolt gun. The point being made was about the rate of fire of a bolt gun versus a semi or full auto.

Yes one should expect to burn out a semi or full auto Barrel just by virtue of the number of rounds fired in a minute. In contrast bolt guns don't have nearly as fast rate of fire. They burn out by virtue of the speed of the individual round being fired.

As said above if somebody wants that kind of gun I fully support their choice.... but for many of us who don't shoot 15,000 rounds in a single day then no we don't choose to buy those calibers.

I fully support your 15,000 round range days.

 

[Webster]

No they don't, pick the appropriate caliber for the task at hand.

My 6BR probably has 2000 shots on it still under 1/2" groups. My computer crashed and I lost the actual count. Same barrel since 2017. Probably 200-300 shots a year.

Varmint rifles don't have to be barrel burners. 6BR 33.3 gr of 8208 55--58 gr bullet about 3585 FPS. Guess what 40-45 gr of powder will do to a barrel especialy if it's a 22 cal. 30 BR never wears a barrel out.

Later: found a backup DB. at leat 2850 shots on the barrel.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

I have no clue what a barrel costs but if it's $200 and 800 rounds barrel life that adds 25c to every round fired. YIKES! And a good barrel may cost more than that.

@ Leo,..
Just get yourself, a good .22-250 Rem and "Down Load" it to,.. .223 Ackley, Velocities !
Much Better, Barrel Life than a .22 Creed and will STILL Blow Chit, up,.. w/ great Velocity & Accuracy !
I Use 50 gr. V-Maxes @ 3,550- 3,600 fps, in One Rifle ( 1-14 Twist, Rem 700 ) and 60 gr. NBT's @ 3,400+ in the New Tikka, 1-8 Twist and I EXPECT to get, really "Descent", Barrel Life from, Both Rifles.
I will Use, the 69 gr SMK's / TMK's, in the 8 twist, Tikka @ 3150 FPS for Yotes.
The Fast Twist, .22 Creed, w/ Heavy Bullets at, "Warp Speed", IS,.. a Rich Man's, "Toy" ! ( No Thanks ! )

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

Urbans 12 twist, 6 XC with .050 freebore would be an incredibly efficient case on coyotes, Chucks, and P. dogs with 70s doing 3740 out of my 24" barrel shooting in the low 2's. 55s are doing 4100. For guys using thermal at night, this flat shooting trajectory, combined with the very hard-hitting 6mm bullet, trumps a lot of other options. Most coyote hunting is 400 and under.

Yup,. Well "Said" !
The 6 XC is One of the Best Long Range Cart's ( 600 to 1,000 yds w/ 105 - 115 gr. Bullets ), 6 MM's, out There !
And,.. E-Z on Barrels , too !
Should Be, a real Hammer on,, Varmints,. w/ lighter Bullets,.. as Ackleyman Says,..
I'd keep it, at "Reasonable" speeds,.. aka, Slower Velocity, tho )

 

[4xforfun]

If you can afford to shoot a high performance round like 22 CM on a prairie dog shoot, you can afford new barrels.

No way!!! The creedmoor is so good you can kill 3-6 prairie dogs in one shot, so it will last way more pd trips than just 1.

And besides, first round hits with the creedmoor are in the 99.9 - 100% area, all the way out to 1200 yards.. ALL DAY LONG

.....IF you do your part!!

 

[Leo_B]

@ Leo,..
Just get yourself, a good .22-250 Rem and "Down Load" it to,.. .223 Ackley, Velocities !
Much Better, Barrel Life than a .22 Creed and will STILL Blows Chit, up,.. w/ great Velocity & Accuracy !
I Use 50 gr. V-Maxes @ 3,550- 3,600 fps, in One Rifle ( 1-14 Twist, Rem 700 ) and 60 gr. NBT's @ 3,400+ in the New Tikka, 1-8 Twist and I EXPECT to get, really "Descent", Barrel Life from, Both Rifles.
I will Use, the 69 gr SMK's / TMK's, in the 8 twist, Tikka @ 3150 FPS for Yotes.
The Fast Twist, .22 Creed, w/ Heavy Bullets at, "Warp Speed", IS,.. a Rich Man's, "Toy" ! ( No Thanks ! )

I've got a Savage 25 Varminter .22 Hornet. I'm all set for anything I'll ever need.

 

[GetReal]

One thing I've learned here of recent is that swapping out a barrel is nowhere near as traumatic as putting a new engine in my truck.


If the bbl is toast @ 1k, just pay for it and change it !

 

[urbanrifleman]

H414 was also supposedly the same as ww760. They claim that’s why they discontinued the H414

Correct. And they denied it the whole time until Hogdon bought the rights to distribute Winchester powders.

 

[ISS]

I used to shoot PDs in MT every spring. I took four rifles. Two 223s, a 220 Swift, and a 6-284.
20 rounds slowly in each 223 out to 300yds. Then the Swift 15 shots slowly from 200-600yds. They the 6 slowly, out as far as I could see them and use my old Barr & Stroud rangefinder.
I would have run a patch wet with Hoppes #9 befire I switched. Wash my hands and put a pair of Nitrile Gloves on and clean all four rifles thoroughly. Peel the gloves off and have a sandwich. Then repeat.
I would wear the Swift barrel out in two or three days, right at 1200 rounds. Same with the 6-284. The 223's lasted over 2200 rounds.
Those were the days, I bought 8lb kegs of H335 and W748m iirc for $64 a keg; buy four and shipping was free from RVO powder company.

Rich

 

[joshb]

I have no clue what a barrel costs but if it's $200 and 800 rounds barrel life that adds 25c to every round fired. YIKES! And a good barrel may cost more than that.

Leo! $200 for a barrel is 1980s pricing. That’s just the barrel with no gunsmithing. Good barrels go for $4-450, these days. Add $4-450 for chamberings and threading, if your gunsmith has a reamer you like.

 

[L.Sherm]

@ Leo,..
Just get yourself, a good .22-250 Rem and "Down Load" it to,.. .223 Ackley, Velocities !

Why not just get a 20 Prac and be done with it.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

Why not just get a 20 Prac and be done with it.

I'm a BIG Fan of .22 Cal's and the .22-250 Rem, in Particular, as it can Be, downloaded to .22 Hornet Velocities and almost Up to,.. .220 Swift velocities. ( Very Flexible, accurate and Popular for, a REASON )
I'm on my 3rd One and for Sage Rats, R. Chucks to, Yotes,.. there's NOTHING, "Better",.. some, are, "Equal".
I Have NO use for, the Tiny,.. .20's or 17's ! SORRY, as I can barely stand to, Clean the Barrel of, the small, .22 Cal's !
Low Recoiling, .222 Rem's and .223's , are Nice for, PD's,.. IMO
My Downloaded, 50 gr. V-Maxes at, 3,600 fps, has NO, Muzzle Rise, so I can see,.. the "Splodies"
PS; Leo seems Happy with, What, he HAS,..

 

[Dgd6mm]

That why God gave us Bradley Walker and Urbanrifleman.
Have a great day.

 

[Big_Daddy]

And if a person can afford a new Barrel every thousand rounds without using taxpayer money or government welfare then I fully support their choice

Whew,,,,,Well hell I feel better knowing that it is okay....

 

[Webster]

Leo! $200 for a barrel is 1980s pricing. That’s just the barrel with no gunsmithing. Good barrels go for $4-450, these days. Add $4-450 for chamberings and threading, if your gunsmith has a reamer you like.

2017 paid Kelbly $750 for a Krieger barrel, chambered and installed.

You don't need a barrel burner if your shooting mostly 350 yrds max in hay fields. 6BR is good to 600 yrds in competition with heavier bullets. To many guys obsessed with speed.