Barrel life 800-1100 rounds!

[1shot]

Barrels are like tires on a race car, consumable items. Sure, if you aren't doing burnouts all the time they will last longer.

 

[AckleymanII]

STS, would you mind sharing the load or the powder that you shoot in your 22 Creed?

 

[L.Sherm]

So what?

Like I said you've obviously never done it.
Go back and read post 66 and 83 you made it about yourself.
I see why you go by Get Real look in the mirror.

 

[Dgd6mm]

It had 1217 rounds on it and would still shoot about 1 inch at 400 yards.

My guess was going to be over 1000 but under 1500. Since I couldn't come up with a closer number then that I figured I'd wait and see. 1217 and 1 inch at 400, excellent.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Was going to inquire with you about a prefit for my Savage. Then seeing this, maybe not.

I was not bad mouthing 22 arc. I asked for a discussion (maybe that was misunderstood). I simply don't see where it lies in the big scheme of things. In terms of a bolt gun at least. I know why it was developed for the gas gun.

I chamber 22 arcs. I did one this week. I ask the question to customers all the time. I don't see it as a big deal to ask why they like it. Also. I'm certainly entitled to my favorites just like everyone else.

In my mind, the 22arc requires a special bolt face, performs about the same as a 223 Ackley and doesn't do anything as good as a 22br. The brass supply for 22 arc is a shadow of either 223 or 22br. And both of those have Lapua brass available, which there is none better.

That's my take on it. But it's not pugilistic.

 

[drop_point]

Back when I used to go on prairie dog hunts all the time, we had a good method which included taking about six rifles a person. We'd roll up with .17 HMRs ready to go. They didn't spook all the close dogs back into their holes when they were fired. If you fired something like a .243 to start the day, you'd rarely see much pop out under 150 yards, so we used the little guns.

We'd kill all the dogs we could up to 150-200 yards. Then we would pick up our .17 Ackley Hornets and kill everything left out to 250-300 yards. Then it was time for .17 Remingtons, .204s, .223s, etc. before getting out bigger stuff.

For the really long shots, we'd have a couple of other rifles for reaching out. Swapping guns also meant cool barrels and more barrel life. My arsenal for prairie dog trips was .17 HMR, .17Ackley Hornet, .204 Ruger, .223 Rem, 6mm Rem AI, and 6.5-284. I would put the majority of the rounds on the .17s and the .204 Ruger. I never wore out a .17 but did go through a couple of .204 barrels. I would shoot maybe 100-200 rounds a trip of 6mm AI and 6.5-284. One shooting partner also put the bulk of his rounds on .17 Remington, .22-250, .223 WSSM, and .220 Swift--he wore out barrels and spent more money.

If I were going to do it again today, I'd shoot .17 Ackley Hornet, .204 Ruger, .223 Rem, 6 Dasher, and probably 6.5x47 or 6.5 Creedmoor. I would also shoot with suppressors as much as I could, too. I'd probably leave the .17 HMRs at home and anything really big.

 

[GetReal]

Smh.

 

[GetReal]

Swapping guns also meant cool barrels and more barrel life.

Same way I put 30 - 50 on a barrel over abt 10 - 15 minutes, then switch to another gun when killing paper and steel. Lets the 1st bbl cool.

Im told too hot a barrel both decreases accuracy as it heats up ( Ive seen that happen numerous times) and also decreases bbl life prematurely.

Im not a pro shooter or anything cool like that.

If the point of the exercise is to hit the PD, not understanding why anyone would put 800 - 1000 rds on a single bbl in an 8 hr day.

Maybe such overheating is why these bbls only last 1k.

 

[KMW 1954]

I was not bad mouthing 22 arc. I asked for a discussion (maybe that was misunderstood). I simply don't see where it lies in the big scheme of things. In terms of a bolt gun at least. I know why it was developed for the gas gun.

I chamber 22 arcs. I did one this week. I ask the question to customers all the time. I don't see it as a big deal to ask why they like it. Also. I'm certainly entitled to my favorites just like everyone else.

In my mind, the 22arc requires a special bolt face, performs about the same as a 223 Ackley and doesn't do anything as good as a 22br. The brass supply for 22 arc is a shadow of either 223 or 22br. And both of those have Lapua brass available, which there is none better.

That's my take on it. But it's not pugilistic.

I know, mine was more a friendly jestive poke at the comment than at you. It has been my contention for a long time that no one has to like or understand what or why I like or believe in something. Don't feel the need for anyone to validate my actions or desires.

Went through the same scenario when I was putting together my 28" 6arc Bolt rifle. Some of the comments I received from friends were very much comical! Today I am shooting that same rifle in a bench league and this year am fighting for the #1 place after normally being down in the middle of the pack. I just don't spend my time trying to understand what or why others are doing what they do.

Also, I know you are now chambering for the 22ARC. We talked about it a while ago, before you started cutting them. Besides, I have followed you on here enough to gain a great deal of respect for what you are doing.

As for the special bolt head. I shoot Savage rifles and a bolt head change for them only costs about $30.00. About the same cost as a box of 69gr Sierra Match Kings. They can be easily purchased from our friends at Gun Shake.

Doesn't do anything as good as a 22BR? Yet it is the same case as the 22PPC. Why isn't the 22PPC being used in the AR since it is such a spectacular target round? Why the 223 ISSF build?

 

[AckleymanII]

So you know, there is 0.5g difference in case capacity between a 22/250 AI and the 22 Creed.

I have shot 22/250 AI on p. dog towns using Win 760 with 55g and 60g Bergers, and it is rough on barrels. Using IMR 4064 in the same case would wipe out a barrel in two days shooting, if that!