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New 6mm longer barrel life, same accuracy 6mmCompetitionMatch

I keep hearing that what I am doing with the 6mmCompetitionMatch isn’t any thing new. I’ve heard that everything you can do with the 6mm has been tried and you can but them all into a bag, shake them up and what ever you pull out will be about the same.

Possibly not…..when I started this I may have believed that, but now I have found…..

The neat thing about the 6mmCompetitionMatch is that it is in a realm of the 6mm world that really hasn’t been touched.

You have the 243 Ackley Improved and then you have the 6XC, the 6mm/22-250, the 6BR and all the other undersized 6mm cartridges.

I have done some research and there isn’t a cartridge like the 6mmCompetitionMatch anywhere. Ackley mentions a .243 Epps that comes close, but as far as I know it hasn’t been shot for years. There isn’t any detailed information on the cartridge nor is there any loading data. Someone suggest that the 6Cm was the same as the 6mm Nieomiller, but this cartridge is nothing more than a 6mm-22/250 with a very long neck,same as the 6XC).

Furthermore, back when the .243 Epps or 6mm Nieomiller was developed we didn’t have the powders we have today, nor were they looking towards shooting big bullets,107-115).

I think I’m the front of this. With the 243 Win I was getting 3000 rounds from every barrel with good accuracy. Yielding, 3000 rounds without any degradation in accuracy from the first chambering of the rifle. The 6mmCompetitionMatch gives me better barrel life and better accuracy because of the improved shoulder angle and increased neck length. Not to mention increased case capacity that gives even more velocity.

I haven’t reinvented the wheel, but possibly I found the radial tire for the 6mm rim.

Joe Hendricks
Hendricks Shooting Improvements
Hendricks4@comcast.net
 
I may be wrong but I still think its all been done before. Most just have not been marketed. Take the 6BRM,6PPR and the 6MOJO for example. There were a host of 6.5-08 versions before the .260. Same with all the 6-250's before the 6XC came along. Whether its a new idea or not. Market it well or win a national championship with it and everyone will think its the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Good luck
Jeff
 
Ok on 6 mm Nieomiller, but now in 2005 with broadd range of powder available you can tune to get same velocity with case velopcity change, best way is to able 100% of loading with the faster powder wich match with acceptable pressure, not HOT ROD load as some crazy unsafe load )

best is to publish your chamber design or enought information to make thing clear, only chamber drawing lock a cartridge use, case shape is one thing but a cartridge will must match to a chamber and minimum informations, without all informations to duplicate the reamer ) will be
base diameter
neck diameter and neck clearance,
throat design or OAL available

no really need or want to copy but to promote something best is to be able to lock a design chambering and not a cartridge shape, check 408 Cheytac story or 6.5 Grendel story ......)

I have make test from 243 WIN SAAMI /243 0.271 neck paralel throat, close to 6 Norma design ) same in 6X up to 22/243 Midd neck up to 6 mm, all solution can get interesting thing but IF you want to make something popular, why not ) best is to publish usefull information

I wish you a lot of sucess in 6 mm family wildcat

DANTEC
 
There is no need for me to publish the actual cartridge dimensions. Many on here and other places have claimed this has been done before, so pick your wild cat an try it. Not to be too sarcastic, but this hasn't been done before.

I have searched the records of wild cat cartridges and looked over the history of cartridges and I can not find any cartridge any closer to the 6mmCompetionMatch than the 243.

The 243 is the basis for this cartridge, but it is much different. There appears to be a void in the 6mm realm.

If the only difference was the cartridge design I would happily post all of the information and name it after myself so that I would live for ever or in the brief time the cartridge was shot. At the least my name would be in some book some where.

However, the 6CM isn't successful with out proper loading and cleaning. And the loading and cleaning will help some other cartridges to be better.

Therefore, I want to talk to the people that initially shoot the 6CM to make sure they are loading and cleaning it as prescribed.

Yes it is your rifle and it is your barrel. However, this is my invention and I know the entire procedure works. If you mix fire with water you get water. I have a complete plan for this cartridge and work with me and you will have fire.

This is a total package and I am very excited about the future with this cartridge. It will make an impact in all of the shooting disciplines.

You can contact me for more information at hendricks4@comcast.net or at 724-933-8110

Joe Hendricks
Hendricks Shooting Improvements
 
Ok and why not

I find a bit sad to try to make adds on new product without any real informations true informations sharing as :

velocity /pressure/load/bullet weight.

and in your specific case the barrel life

testing barrel life is a pain work because to be able to check some thing you need to shhot a lot and compare with similar caliber as exemple

243 WIN or 6 XC with perfect record chamber specs, perfect barrel specs and same barrel maker.

and you caliber side by side with the same number of round same shooting range weather and if possible shoot in the same time

record accuracy from rest at 500/1000/1500/2000....

after this first test you can publish results and bore scope pictures with OAL lenght .

Question : how much do you sale because your main concern seem to make money

formed cases, brand ?)
realoding set of dies, brand ?)

if you doesnt want to publish usefull information perhaps that will not help to promote your product you will agree to sale stuff linked with this round

I work since years on wildcat design and test and I have now heavy lab equipement I doesn t think that there is magic design some are better than other, 6 Dasher is impressive as exemple ) but equations parameters stay :

load weight/case capacity/bullet weight/velocity/barrel lenght
nothing more nothing less and get the magic respice of accuracy/barrel life and velocity is really questionable .

I agree than new powder choice is broader in burning rate scale and load density possibility too, spherical/tubular ) if I speak about true improvment I will speak as something as for example :
a powder with the load density of the 4831 and the burning rate of the 4350 to help to feel big case and better loading density .

I am not sure at all that 6 Neomiller have a longer with a shorter body, base of Neomiller design is to have make a longer neck with just a 30° shoulder form in the regular 20° nothing more .

On the fact you have post

So how is this cartridge better than the 6XC?

1) Accuracy: The 6XC is extremely accurate and this cartridge equals that but is not any better or worse.

so why not promote it as 600 yards BR cartridge, tighter chamber as option will doesn t kill the improvement you have done.

2) Moly Coating: You do not have to nor should you shoot moly-coated bullets with this cartridge. With the 6XC you have to shoot moly to equal the velocity of the 6mmCompetitionMatch.,Having to shoot moly to obtain a wanted velocity is one of the detouring factors in barrel life)

Moly help engraving on long bearing surface bullet that a fact, mecanical fact ) moly reduce pressure so reduce velocity too and request a highter load to reach naked bullet velocity

3) Barrel Life: Experience tells us that 2000 rounds are about all that is obtainable from the 6XC. This cartridge will give, using our loading and cleaning suggestions over 3000 rounds from every barrel.

so not only your chamber design that your loading too and your cleaning respice ??

4) Brass: You use standard 243 brass. No more waiting for custom brass and you can pick and choose the manufacturer. Also, fire forming is not necessary for short range and only necessary for long range to add a comfort factor. The brass will work fine the first time it is sized.

so you doesn t increase body taper because you still use a 243 win seater so your only options are to

set back the soulder
modify the shoulder angle

you perhaps increase body taper but increase 08 body taper will make remake of the 6/250 Savage, not the best for hight pressure load

so your case is not smaller than a 243 minus few 0.01 of inch because you again use a 243 WIN seater without modifications .

5) Velocity: The obtainable velocity is much higher than the 6XC. However, for short range shooting we do not recommend shooting more than 3000 fps,for barrel life). This velocity is obtained with out moly.

velocity is one parameter, barrel heat is another, you can increase velovity but with more enrguy, pressure/gas volume ) so you get more barrel heat

I agree that nothing is free and your goal is surely to make money but publish usefull informations can surely help you more than unclear informations

I really think that all the trials done to try to sale new cartridges / chambrering, check 408 Cheytac and magic LRB Bulet or small cartridge able to equal big case ... ) without the will to share enought of clear and proven informations is not the best way to follow from my point of view

good shooting

DAN TEC
 
DAN TEC,

I'm going to post two times tonight.

I thought I had included the initial write up I did on the 6mmCompetionMatch, but possibly not so here it is....


Read it over it should answer some of your questions.

6mm Competition Match

Mission Statement:
Design of a cartridge capable of equal ballistics to the 6XC with 50% greater barrel life. Design of a cartridge that is superior to the 6XC for 1000-yard competition. The cartridge must have equal or better accuracy at all ranges, no more recoil than the 6XC and the capability to shoot higher velocities for shooters that want a superior 1000-yard cartridge.

The results of our research and experiences:

With over 10 years of experience shooting 6mm cartridges of all sizes the results have proven that the smaller 6mm cartridges like the 6XC, 6mm-22-250 and the 6BR do not obtain the longer barrel life expected from these cartridges. Furthermore, the smaller of a case shot the lower the velocity you are able to obtain. Giving up a few hundred feet per second,like you do with the 6BR) doesn’t pay back in the minimal barrel life you gain, if any barrel life is gained.

Shooters have resolved themselves to the fact that when shooting a 6mm the maximum average barrel life is 2000 rounds. This is absolutely false. The 223 and the 6.5x308 can easily shoot 3000 round or more before the barrel is shot out. So why should the 6mm, that is between the two, get 1000 round less per barrel. It doesn’t!

The perception among shooters is that smaller case capacity equals longer barrel life. This is also false. What our research and experience has shown is that barrel life is directly related to how much you push the cartridge.

When you shoot a cartridge with less capacity you have to shoot faster burning powder to obtain equal velocities to a cartridge of the same bullet diameter with a larger capacity, or you are giving up velocity while still pushing the cartridge as hard as you can.,6BR, 6mm-22-250, 6XC).

Shooting the faster burning powder does three things to your barrel.

1) First the faster burning powder burns at a hotter temperature. Steel, what all barrels are made from, is more malleable at higher temperatures. What this means is that the hotter the temperature inside the barrel the more metal that can be removed by the softer copper bullet. This is especially important in rapid fire strings and during practice where there isn’t as much time between shots or strings.
2) Second the pressure behind the bullet goes up very fast and goes down very fast. The maximum pressure of the shot takes place very quickly in the throat area of the barrel. This puts the maximum force on the most important part of the barrel. Anyone who has ever bent a paper clip or wire back and forth understands that if you do it enough the steel weakens and eventually breaks. Faster burning powder is doing this your barrel and overtime it weakens. This decreases barrel life also.
3) Third it burns faster and burns in the throat of your barrel. What this means is that the area where the bullet contacts the lands of the barrel takes all of the abuse. Not just from the bullet, but from the powder also.

What can be concluded from this is that faster burning powder stress the barrel by the force of the pressure, by the heat that weakens the steel, and then by the burning of the powder.

To shoot a cartridge like the 6XC, 6mm-22-250 or the 6BR and obtain faster,desirable) velocities out of the larger 6mm bullets like the 107 or the new 115 you have to shoot the faster burning powders. Subjecting your barrel to higher pressures, higher temperatures, higher stress and combusting all of the powder in the throat area of the barrel.

Our goal when we started this project. It was to shoot the 107 at 3000 fps period, no more. At the time this equaled the cartridge of choice for 1000 yard shooting in ballistics, the 300 Winchester Magnum. Since then the 115 has come on the market and it is the superior bullet for XTC and 1000-yard competition. This bullet shot at velocities around 3000 fps out performs the 6.5x284.

Remember all of this research was completed with the goal of developing superior cartridge for XTC matches. The added benefit to the cartridge is that you can shoot it at 1000 yards and not give up anything. In fact, it is superior to all of the commonly used cartridges for 1000-yard competition.

What our research and experience has proved:

The initial goal was to shoot a 6mm 107 grain bullet at 3000 fps and obtain equal barrel life to the 308 Winchester.

What our research and experience has shown is that cartridges with larger case capacity, slower burning powder, loaded with a specific velocity goal in mind obtain much longer barrel life than the smaller capacity cartridges aimed at obtaining the same velocity.

The reasons for longer barrel life:

1) First the slower burning powder burns at a cooler temperature than faster burning powders. These lower temperatures have a great affect on barrel life. The barrel is not subject to as hot of a temperature and therefore the bullets do not have as much of an affect on the steel as with faster burning powders. This is more important during rapid fire and during a practice session. The barrel’s steel is less malleable because of lower temperatures. You are not subjecting your barrel to the same temperatures you do with faster burning powder.
2) Second the pressure curve is much different with a slower burning powder. With a slower burning powder the pressure peak is down the barrel much farther and more importantly the peak pressure is lower. What this means is that you are subjecting your barrel to a lower stress on every shot and the stress is spread over a larger portion of the barrel’s length. Again, think of the paperclip, if you only bend it a little and bend it in different places it takes much longer to break it. The lower pressure and the pressure applied over a greater amount of the barrel adds to the life of the barrel.
3) Third, it burns slower. Therefore the powder is burning as it goes down the barrel. Given a more even affect to the barrel. The burning powder is less concentrated in the length of the barrel and barrel ware is more uniform.

Brass for the 6mm Competition Match:

Custom brass is not necessary. Standard 243 Win brass should be used with this cartridge. The case is only slightly different in shoulder and all 243 Winchester cases can be shot in match condition either slow fire or rapid fire before being fire formed. Trim to lengths and neck thickness is not an issue with this cartridge. We have designed the neck of the cartridge so that factory Remington or Winchester brass can be shot without turning down the necks. We do recommend turning the necks to an even thickness for long range. Trim to lengths are exactly the same as the standard 243 Win.

Basic plan for loading for the 6mm Competition Match for XTC:

In order to get the maximum life from your barrel there are three things you must do:

1) Shoot the 107 or 115 at or around 3000 fps. If you try to shoot faster than 3000 fps, and this cartridge will do that, you will decrease the life of the barrel.,because you will either have to use more or faster burning powder) 3000 fps is all that is needed out of either the 107 or 115 bullet for XTC shooting.
2) The powder you choose for this cartridge is the key. You must use a very slow burning powder that is of a single base design. The powders we recommend are N165, N170 and H1000. Using these powders you can easily achieve more than 3000 fps out of the 107 and 115. Using faster burning powders will obtain higher velocities, but will decrease the life of the barrel.
3) Maintain your barrel with consistent applications of JB Bore Cleaner or another equal polishing compound ever 200 to 250 round. Work the throat area of the barrel with 30 to 50 passes to smooth out any ruff spots. This is very important! This should be completed with 2 or 3 patches having the polishing compound applied and then either brush the barrel clean with a wet brush or wipe it clean with 5 to 10 patches soaked with your cleaner of choice. It is not necessary to work the entire barrel with the polishing compound, but it will get excesses copper fowling out of the barrel down the entire length.
Remember that most barrels foul from the muzzle end down about 2 to 4 inches and this area needs to clear of copper fouling every time you clean the gun. An easy way to clean this area is the ISSO Bore Cleaner paste. It is non-abrasive and does a very good job on copper fouling.
What the JB or other polishing compound is doing is smoothing all of the rough surfaces. This drastically decreases barrel ware as the bullet isn’t pulling off sharp bits of steel from the barrel and the copper isn’t filling the voids as fast.

For loading the 6mm Competition Match for 1000 yard shooting:

For 1000-yard competition many competitors do not consider barrel life. Many competitors only shoot several 1000-yard matches per year. If you are shooting this cartridge for 1000-yard competition only it will out perform the 6.5x284. Loading this cartridge with powders like N160, H4831, N150, H4350 or other similar powders will obtain velocities at or above 3,200 fps with the 115 grain bullet.

The loading for XTC performs very well at 1000 yards and this is a cartridge that allows the shooter to shoot one gun XTC and at 1000 yards. This is a huge pluse to the shooter that only shoot 1000 yard matches once or twice a year. You can shoot the same gun and the same load without giving up anything at 1000 yards. If you want to boost your load at 1000 yards you can get an advantage. The shooter can decide, depending on individual goals what loads to shoot for 1000-yard competition. However, you can shoot the same load at 600 and at 1000 yards and not give up anything to the 6.5x284’s or the 300 Winchester Magnums.
 
Ok

thanks for explains and that be far more clear and interesting that previous posts

last point

I have make test in time combustion and pressure courve location /time

with slow powder, always speaking in ratio with the water capacity as exemple 4831 burnin rate powder in 222 Rem is not serious ) ball powder are far more "less abrassive " for throat when you use full density load because a part of powder load is effect in the barrel and ball is far less abrasive than thick big tubular grain .
reserve quality of the spherical powder :
most of them are more temp sensitive and other bad point
they are very sensitive, double base ) to over pressure when you reach the max side of the load table
they are durty, graphite coating )

note : If you plan to sale serious stuuf than not seely to check your pressure chamber level with a strain gage as shooting sofware equipement

you set up one barrel in 243 win with the same bullet /same velocity
you set up a barrel with your chambering and check what pressure diffrence you get with same bullet /velocity

I am in process to do that with the magic 6.5 Grendell that a very interesting test

good shooting

DAN TEC
 
Dan Tec,

I'm glad the post helped. However I still wanted to answer some of you questions and concerns directly.

You asked me how much I sell because you think my main concern is to make money.

First I don’t sell much, but this is not my business. I am sold out of my initial lot of dies and barrels, and I have more on order.

As far as making money, I am not in this to make money. I am in this to prove an idea that I have proved to myself. Actually, I should have kept this to myself. I am simply trying to share an idea, not commonly believed or accepted or tried, that works. I’m not talking about the cartridge, but the loading. This all works well with the 243 Win case, but with less accuracy and less obtainable velocity.

You asked why I am not promoting the cartridge as a BR case for 600 yards. I was leaving this up to the BR community to decide to try. I am not a BR shooter and I don’t know the game. However, I do believe the cartridge will do well in BR competition and the gentleman doing the barrel work is one of the top BR shooters in the US and there will be a 6CM cartridge represented in BR competition next year. However, I can not promote to a shooting discipline that I don’t shoot.

On the note of Moly: We simply haven’t shot moly out of these cartridges loaded the way we are loading them. Possibly moly will increase the barrel life. However, I have found moly to be a cleaning problem.

On the note of Velocity: In the XTC game, and in the other games, velocity is required to win. The more velocity you have the better the bullet shoots in the wind. I am working with a velocity goal of 3000 fps. This is good for XTC shooting. The 6CM is capable of more.

Barrel heat is a direct result of the powder you burn. If you can burn a slower burning powder with lower energy and get the same velocity the powder produces less heat. If you are burning a faster burning powder to get the same velocity the heat is grater. Not to mention the stress on the barrel and the area where the stress is applied is smaller.

I don’t have access to the equipment you have to test. I also don’t have the time. All of this information is base on range experience and my simple chronograph.

The bottom line is that the 6CM is yielding over 3000 rounds per barrel, while getting 3000 fps from either the 105, 107 or 115. Accuracy is equal to other 6mm cartridges. This is all assuming the shooter loads and cleans the barrel as prescribed.

Joe Hendricks
Hendricks Shooting Improvements
Hendricks4@comcast.net
724-933-8110
 
On money concern I can understand because that very difficult to see money come back, first ) when you have spend time and money to make something, a very close story is the 6.5 Grendell ..and the choice is hard between lock the market by a strong monopoly or try to make money only on for exemple case if your wildcat case are monoply made as Lazzeroni for example

Lazzeroni you can get reamer drawing, chamber barrel but you are lock with Lazz for case, Hornady is now a other official source

IF you improvement is just case design with parent case as 243 win that less easy

most biggest improvement came from private shooter and most big name in famous round came from pure wilcat as 260 REM

On question for BR circle that because F class is very close to BR shooting and F class is an interesting shooting competition

scoped rifle can be use from 16 to ...year old
prone position with rest is very confortable so that easy to shoot even if you rae not able to shoot standing
no need of table

with a BR modified chamber that will be a good challenger to the 260 REM for shooter who want to stay or prefer to shoot 6 mm, and improve barrel life can be a nice thing for rapid string shooting, even in BR win a match doesn request very tight groups, you just need to make the smaller of the range .


On the note of Moly: We simply haven’t shot moly out of these cartridges loaded the way we are loading them. Possibly moly will increase the barrel life. However, I have found moly to be a cleaning problem.

Moly is inteesting improvement but you need to pay attention to :

that a dry lubricant stick on bullet by impact coating
to much thicker coat doesn t help that create moly fouling and diffrent moly thickness on bullet out side and bullet inside because your neck shave the moly

Moly help to save throat life because throat can be compare to forming die, the die will wear fater X? use, more longer is your bearing surface more you use your throat as bullet forming/engraving so moly reduce friction but doesn t reduce forming pressure, the force request to engrave a groove in the bullet )

worth side of the moly longer is your barrel, you start to foul moly and finish with copper because moly is not inside burt that just a coating, that possible to find raw material with moly inside but I have never see any use in bullet making

On powder burning outside/inside I have start test I will send detail by mail that a uncommun way to see what happens in case
first set up is set for 243 Win


I keep in touch

good shooting

DAN TEC
 
I became aware of the 6CM on this forum and decided to purchase a barrel after trading several emails with Joe. I supplied a rem700VS in .308 to mount the barrel on. Joe delivered the gun back to me on time, and the workmanship was top notch.
The short story is the gun and cartridge are meeting Joe's claims, and my expectations.
I am loading 107SMK's over a compressed load of H1000 with FED210M primers in WW brass. the bullets are set for 50 thou jump. 3000fps is easily acheived with my 28 inch barrel. The brass is not being stressed at all. I have run up to 3100fps with no pressure signs.
Accuracy runs about .3 to .4 moa for 5 shot groups from 100 to
500 yards. At 1000 yards, 5 shot groups are .6 to .9 moa, I have more work to do at 1000 yards to shrink the groups. This cartridge seems to do best at 500 yards, with the best moa
results at 500 yards.
I consider this cartridge a very worthwhile project, and look forward to working with other bullet weights. The only claim I
cannot verify is the 3000 round barrel life. I have no doubt
this claim will be verified in due time.
I consider myself a tactical and varmit shooter. I shoot off the ground with a harris bipod on the front, and a bean bag on the rear. I am sure a benchrester could get smaller groups than I.
I use kreiger, broughton and remington barrels on my other rifles.
The only interesting rifle is an accurate rifle!!

chris b
 
Chris,

Thanks for the good words. I'm happy it is working for you. I knew it would.

The 6CM has proven to be the best cartridge I have fired across the course in NRA competition and mainly at 600 yards. I have yet to shoot it at 1,000 yards, however I do not doubt that it will equal or better any other 6mm cartridge of the same size.

The projected barrel life is based on over 10 years of experience shooting simular cartridges with the same recipe. Slow burning powders and keeping the throat smooth with a polishing compound like JB. The 6CM has an improved shoulder angle and the overall design of the cartridge is dedicated to prolonged barrel life as well as increased accuracy.

Again, thanks Chris for the kind words.

Joe Hendricks
Hendricks Shooting Improvements
Hendricks4@comcast.net
724-933-8110
 
It is no secret that cartridges like the .223 and .308 almost always get way more than 3000 rounds out of a barrel. So what do they have? 2700fps is what they have.

So why not load the 6XC with a milder charge of H4350,which is slower burning than typical .223 and .308 powders) with, say, 85 grain bullets, and use that load at 200/300 yards? Use 107s at 600 yards and real high-pressure 115 grain screamers at 1000 only. Who would ever know the difference?
 
That would be interesting to try....

However at 300 yard you would be at a significant disadvantage to the 107.

I never tried it and I'd be interested to see if the barrel life was significantly improved. Possibly it will be.

The 6XC is an awesome cartridge. I have fired some of my highest scores with that cartridge coupled with the T2000. The T2000 is perfect as far as I can tell. I am expecting my 2nd one any day.

The reason I designed the 6mmCompetitionMatch was simply that I knew the barrel life results we had achieved for over 10 years with the 243 and my described loadings and cleaning. Personally, I found it a problem to have to switch barrels in the middle of a season or to have a barrel rechambered,which takes a couple of weeks. as I don't do the work myself).

I found the 6XC to be more accurate than the 243W so I made the 243W sized case look like a 6XC. I found the accuracy and more I achieved with the 6XC from the 6CM and now I have the barrel life also.


I shared this information for one simple reason. Working people, who compete; cannot afford 2 or 3 barrels per year to complete a season. More importantly we don't have the time to break in and developed loads for 2 or 3 barrels per year. I feel that the "common" shooter will benefit by shooting a 243 sized case, loaded properly and cleaned properly by being able to shoot 1 barrel per year,2 barrel if you practice a lot).


Joe Hendricks
 
I was very interested in the 6CM but my being in Australia makes it just to difficult and expensive to do what Joe Wants with all the paper work and clearances i would need to firstly send an action to the states then the export and clearances and such for him to send it back with Barrel attached and for me to obtain import permits for the barrel and my action. Also we now have to do all import export by courier service as Aus Post refuses to carry barrels, actions, Triggers etc.
So if you ever decide to release the dimensions Etc let me know i can keep a secret.
Would like to give the boys over here a touch-up on the 500m Fly going to try with my 30BR.
 
Bob,

I have no idea who Joe is but why not ask him if he can chamber up a barrel for you without having the action on hand. Depending on which action you are using,Barnard isn’t it?), some gunsmiths can do a fitting based on standard dimensions. For example, I’m having Mike Bryant chamber and thread two barrels for my Grizzly II action. Mike doesn’t need me to send him my action as he has the dimensions on file.

Now I’ll be dropping a go and no gauge into the chamber after I screw the barrel on just to be sure but I have full confidence he’ll get it right. That’s one big advantage of custom actions and a good BR gunsmith.
 
Bob,

Drop me a line. I have sold one reamer to a good friend and and if you are still interested I don't see the harm in sending one to Australia.

In fact it would be a benefit. You see I'm not in this to make money, just to prove a concept.

Let me know.

Joe Hendricks
hendricks4@comcast.net
 
useing slow powder like vit n165 or vit n160 in a 1 in 8 twist 243 win shooting 105 lapua scenars or 115dtacs with proper cleaning regime would also be an exellent contender, with also v good barrel life, i shoot a Blaser in 243 with 90g scenars and find its accuracy exellent, its a shame that the barrel has a 1 in 10 twist so im limited to the 90 graners, thinking of getting the 6mmbr barrel which has the 1 in 8 twist and rechambering it to 243, with its larger case i think it would have an edge over the 6mmbr at 600 and 1000y. paul t Ireland.
 
I thought this would be a fun read for some. Over the years this cartridge has proved to be all that Joe expected it to be and then some. Time and time again. Enjoy, and if your looking for more info search joesr 6CM.
 

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