Edd
Gold $$ Contributor
That's too bad. I believe I know why it didn't work.
Jewell trigger dead after three shots
- Thread starter Woofie
- Start date
Why? Tell me why I should be their QC department, please. If you bought a car at a Ford dealers, it broke on the way off the lot, how would you feel if the dealer told you: "Oh, you have to send it back to Ford." Because that's what you're asking. In autos, that's why we have Lemon Laws.
I took the loss, moved on. Lesson learned.
My dealer told me to send it back to Jewell. No interest.
Let's see, (single) load round, gun go bang three times. Then quits. I *think* I worked the bolt the same way, and never touched the adjustment screws. So tell me, oh wise one, what exactly is the operator error you're thinking of?
joshb
Gold $$ Contributor
You made a serious accusation against a Company with a stellar history. Several guys here, expert gunsmiths by the way, offered to take a look at the trigger. That evaluation would help answer a question a great many shooters here now have about the quality of currently produced Jewels.
We don’t know much about you except that when asked to let an expert look at the trigger you “claim” is junk, you bury the evidence. Instead of being helpful to a great many people here, you hide behind “liability issues.”
We don’t know much about you except that when asked to let an expert look at the trigger you “claim” is junk, you bury the evidence. Instead of being helpful to a great many people here, you hide behind “liability issues.”
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
I wanted to be that ford dealer. I mainly wanted to see if there was an upcoming issue i need to be watching for on my builds. Im like mr. Tooley i dont like to hear the phone ring, especially after 3 shots
joshb
Gold $$ Contributor
Hey Dusty: How about I buy a new Jewel from Larry and send it to you for an inspection and you report on it here? You game?
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Yep. Ill give it the full treatment for you
joshb
Gold $$ Contributor
For all of us! I’m betting a lot of members here want to know. I’ll get it moving.
Thanks
Josh
jelenko
Gold $$ Contributor
I too am not interested in being a company's QC department.
But, ALL companies have some some defects in their products or services. By passing on from the first defect, as far as you know the next trigger from a different company could be bad also. It is just luck of the draw. Granted, with quality companies, the chance is small - but, then, it was small when you bought the Jewell.
There is also just professional courtesy to give the provider a chance to fix their defect before slamming them in public. I assume you would feel the same way if some one a work had an issue with something you did and went to your boss before asking you about it.
Maybe Bruno’s knows the deal, that Jewell will take care of the product direct.
Bill Norris
Back in the Day
He apparently has money to burn. Just toss it in the trash. Really?
butchlambert
Site $$ Sponsor
Woofles backed his self into a corner and can't get out. Would you sell him something?
M995
T SNOOK
To the " OP " send me a copy of your bill of your trigger & as long as it's in reason i'll refund you the price when i received the trigger ( even though i'm prettey sure i didn't sell it to you ). If your not willing to do this this then yor are admitting to have never bougth the the trigger in question.
M995
T SNOOK
About a month I was careless enough to drop my R700 action on the workshop floor. A bit like toast landing butter down, but of course, it landed trigger down and broke my Timney trigger. My fault not theirs. So, I drove over to Brunos and bought a Jewell HVR. $200 later I had a working trigger -- for three shots. Then it quit.
Had an overseas trip, but downloaded the instructions from here and set at it today. I *thought* it might be overtravel, but no it isn't. Safety will work 50:50 but even when I add a good bit of sear engagement most of the time the bolt fires when I turn the safety off. 'Nuff said, I just had to cancel my range booking for tomorrow.
We'll see if Brunos is interested in replacing it, but I'm not. I may be out $200 but it's going in the trash. Don't have time for wonky triggers.
I'll buy a Geiselle or Triggertech, likely the former. From experience, at least I know they work.
PS: No, I didn't drop the Jewell
Your touched a nerve.
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M995
T SNOOK
About a month I was careless enough to drop my R700 action on the workshop floor. A bit like toast landing butter down, but of course, it landed trigger down and broke my Timney trigger. My fault not theirs. So, I drove over to Brunos and bought a Jewell HVR. $200 later I had a working trigger -- for three shots. Then it quit.
Had an overseas trip, but downloaded the instructions from here and set at it today. I *thought* it might be overtravel, but no it isn't. Safety will work 50:50 but even when I add a good bit of sear engagement most of the time the bolt fires when I turn the safety off. 'Nuff said, I just had to cancel my range booking for tomorrow.
We'll see if Brunos is interested in replacing it, but I'm not. I may be out $200 but it's going in the trash. Don't have time for wonky triggers.
I'll buy a Geiselle or Triggertech, likely the former. From experience, at least I know they work.
PS: No, I didn't drop the Jewell
I don't believe they were giving the opportunity
I use a number of these 700 triggers in both BR (without safety) and the top safety varmint version.
They are all far beyond merely dependable. If one becomes dirty during a match, the benign indicator of that has always been that the sear engagement bar stays down. This is easy to remedy on the line. Simply remove the bolt and tap the sear, then when it pops up, push it down with a bullet tip gently that you then quickly skirt off it, so that the spring pressure pops the sear up. After 5 or so times of that in quick succession you’ve dislodged the immediate grime and the problem is solved for short term match purposes.
It’s possible that a particular stock’s cutout makes minor contact creating interference or binding somewhere even though the action seems to lay into the stock as expected. Those are the only two issues I’ve ever had and neither fitment nor dirt would be attributable to Jewell in any way. In fact where other triggers lack compatibility with certain cocking pieces, I think these are extremely versatile.
Maybe this is naive but I honestly thought Jewel trigger parts were precision made in large lots then assembled basically without alteration by handwork, such that individual parts are interchangeable. I base this on observing the uniformity of 10 received at once that I installed on my guns. If so, I don’t see how they would be very susceptible a swing in quality, just because different personnel run the front. I wonder if quality or functionality is really what “dad” meant about “son” or just something like timeliness or perceived efficiency.
They are all far beyond merely dependable. If one becomes dirty during a match, the benign indicator of that has always been that the sear engagement bar stays down. This is easy to remedy on the line. Simply remove the bolt and tap the sear, then when it pops up, push it down with a bullet tip gently that you then quickly skirt off it, so that the spring pressure pops the sear up. After 5 or so times of that in quick succession you’ve dislodged the immediate grime and the problem is solved for short term match purposes.
It’s possible that a particular stock’s cutout makes minor contact creating interference or binding somewhere even though the action seems to lay into the stock as expected. Those are the only two issues I’ve ever had and neither fitment nor dirt would be attributable to Jewell in any way. In fact where other triggers lack compatibility with certain cocking pieces, I think these are extremely versatile.
Maybe this is naive but I honestly thought Jewel trigger parts were precision made in large lots then assembled basically without alteration by handwork, such that individual parts are interchangeable. I base this on observing the uniformity of 10 received at once that I installed on my guns. If so, I don’t see how they would be very susceptible a swing in quality, just because different personnel run the front. I wonder if quality or functionality is really what “dad” meant about “son” or just something like timeliness or perceived efficiency.
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M995
T SNOOK
Although it's only happen once there was 1 trigger that i had sold that had an issue " gunsmith tweaked it "
After said " gunsmith brought broken trigger to me & I inspected all three parts that mattered, I showed him where he Fuc&ed up & continued to blame Jewell because he doesn't knew what the top bar is in relationship the the sear release
There are 3 moving parts It's as simple as it gets. if you gun plumber doesn't get it , then find one that knows what the are doing Not just part's re-placers.
After said " gunsmith brought broken trigger to me & I inspected all three parts that mattered, I showed him where he Fuc&ed up & continued to blame Jewell because he doesn't knew what the top bar is in relationship the the sear release
There are 3 moving parts It's as simple as it gets. if you gun plumber doesn't get it , then find one that knows what the are doing Not just part's re-placers.
I have nothing to sell him but gee I would love to know where is garbage bins are
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