What’s with the hate for 6.5CM in some circles?

[TheOtherZilla]

Back in the day it was called the 264 Mag. It got no love.. These days it's called the 6.5 CM and everyone and his cousin seem to have one.. And like vegetarians are not bashful about telling you about how great it is.

 

[ronsatspokane]

The 6.5 fans prefer a firm hand shake while looking the person they are shaking hands with in the eye. The 6.5 haters prefer a fanny pat. It's that simple really.

 

[klamathsteel]

 

[Evan]

Only thing louder than a 6.5 creedmoor fan is the 308 guy behind him making excuses for why he missed with his "superior" cartridge.

 

[Txhillbilly]

I loaded up about 400 rds for both of mine yesterday. Probably load up some for my 22 Creedmoor in the morning.
Been a fan of the cartridge over 10 years, just not a fan boy of it. I still shoot a lot of other cartridges just as often.

 

[Brians356]

Just call it a 6.5-250 Ackley Improved and they'll be falling at your feet, begging for enlightenment.
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[Grimstod]

What bothers me about the Creedmoor is that we already had a better cartridge and that was the 6.5x47. Hornady though was to cheap to make the dies to produce the brass so the just necked down the 250 Savage. The result was not as good as the 6.5x47. I get frustrated that mainline manufacturers refuse to adapt some of these supper accurate cartridges. Think of the 6PPC and 6BR for example. Why are they too stupid to make rifles based on these supper accurate and efficient cartridges? To lazy or just stupid?

 

[muleman69]

Creedmoors aren’t bad cartridges, but the hype and “fanboys” spoiled it.

What is the badge by your name?

 

[muleman69]

The result was not as good as the 6.5x47. I get frustrated that mainline manufacturers refuse to adapt some of these supper accurate cartridges. Think of the 6PPC and 6BR for example. Why are they too stupid to make rifles based on these supper accurate and efficient cartridges? To lazy or just stupid?

Well said, very good point

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Just call it a 6.5-250 Ackley Improved and they'll be falling at your feet, begging for enlightenment.
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I’ve been going with 6 1/2x47 Ackley!

 

[pirate ammo]

A lot of Texans on here, might have to fire up the forges of the realm once more.

 

[Depart123]

It has had a meteoric rise to 'success' for sure... the rub is it doesn't really do any one thing better than any number of other cartridges before it - but it was marketed supported better.

Lots of new shooters read the ads, drank the Koolaid, and got their first taste of 'long range precision' with the Creedmoor. Not a bad thing... but they tend to be a little over-enthusiastic telling literally *everybody* who will sit still long enough about it

Yes, I have several. And I had a .260 Rem before that, and a 6.5-08 before that, and a 6-6.5x47L along the way. All good cartridges... Hornady just out-marketed supported them.

Fixed it for you.

The main thing Hornady did right, was they didn't release it until it was ready, and then they supported the hell out of it.

The .260 Rem could have been what the Creed is...but Remington did what Remington does. They gave birth to an ugly baby, then they started choking the life out of it before it ever got off the table.

 

[std7mag]

It's kinda like the 6.5-284, and 338 LM a few years ago.
People ranting over it adnausium...

 

[jelenko]

ok, I’m being mean/funny. AKA picking on you a bit, but where have you been the past 13 years?! There’s literally a 500 post thread on long range hunting about it. Lol

Maybe he's not been on Accurate Shooter the past 13 years.

 

[300_whisper]

Maybe he's not been on Accurate Shooter the past 13 years.

it’s a joke.

 

[jelenko]

it’s a joke.

Ah! Duh.

 

[Shooter13]

The hate comes from the guys that lost their man card and afraid you'll find out. I love my 308 and will always have one but the bitchin' about the 6.5 creedmoor is just stupid, doesn't make sense at all.

 

[Bill K]

More than likely some various reasons, i.e. marketing, some don't like something new, some don't want to admit it has a purpose and is new and some are just plain jealous they did not come up with it. It is a fine cartridge and has a place in our shooting sports.

 

[memilanuk]

The main thing Hornady did right, was they didn't release it until it was ready, and then they supported the hell out of it.

The .260 Rem could have been what the Creed is...but Remington did what Remington does. They gave birth to an ugly baby, then they started choking the life out of it before it ever got off the table.

Meh... I'd argue that, to a point. When the 6.5 CM came out, a number of people told Hornady "great, but it needs good brass that can take pressure - and your brass is generally soft". Much assurance was made that it would not be the case... but it was. Hornady just marketed/supported the ever-living $hit out of it - admittedly with factory ammo that shot *great* - to where the bulk of new shooters who got their first taste of long range using it never realized some of it's early hiccups.

Something else I came across recently... there's been a fair amount of interest lately in the PRS circles about jump tolerance - loading ammo that can shoot pretty well, with minimal fuss. Maybe not BR/F-class great, but pretty good nonetheless. One of the things that came out of that was a jump of 70-90 thou seems to be a common 'window' for a number of calibers. Somewhat heretical in other circles, but bear with me.

Guess where the Hornady factory chamber for a 6.5CM puts a 140gn bullet? Right about 80 thou (according to the gunsmith/podcast I was listening to. Accident? Or intentional?

 

[ExCdnSoldierinTx]

I opened a tall can of schittstorm, it seems.

For 99% of what I do, I coulda and shoulda just stuck with my 308s, but just wanted to try something different.

But compared to what I usually run, it’ll be nice to shoot something that doesn’t smash the necks of the spent brass.

I’ll warn you though, I also carry a CZ75 on my hip, so I’ve been told I need a pocket protector and a Feel the Bern bumpersticker.