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What’s with the hate for 6.5CM in some circles?

ExCdnSoldierinTx

ExCdnSoldierinTx

I was a very loud voice for this cartridge back in 2012 or so, after I looked at ballistic charts, and screwed together a rifle on a 700 action that worked well until someone offered me stupid money for it.
I was laughed at as an old fool who had his head up his arse, couldn’t read a ballistic table, etc, etc.

Now, I got another, took the Savage plunge, and I’m certainly catching hate from many of the other members of my range lease. Online as well. Is it just suddenly too popular, too quick, or what?

It isn’t a replacements for my tried and true trusty 308s, it never will be, but for me, it’s a perfect choice for what I intend to do,.. local area Benchrest and prone Precision fun shoots. It’ll go further with less effort than my 308s, runs much flatter, and gets me into load development, an area I need to improve on.

Comments? And if this has been hashed out previously, Mods p,ease delete and point me in the right direction...

Ernie
 
Meangreen said:
It is a victim of it's own success. It is the darling of the wannabe's, posers and liars.

Therefore, all of the old crusty, curmudgeonous, contrarians hate it. It is as simple as that. It is pushback against an image...regardless of performance.
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Hahahhaaaa! Awesome. Well, I’m an old, crusty curmudgeon who’s got a really good “get off my lawn” voice, but I bloody well love the load.

That said, I had a couple guys tell me all about their new Henry’s in 6.5CM and how there gonna shoot the hair off a fly’s arse at 800 yds with it.
 
Ah, well....... you are new here! You must have missed the Creedmoor wars.
You can use the search feature and catch up. Lots of laughs, actually!
I joined in on the fun and bashed it while building one and buying a Tikka CTR chambered for it. I put my build in a ridiculously yellow stock, just for fun! Skeetlee did the chamber job for the Winchester 70 action. I’m even a member of the beloved and highly secretive Creedmoor Talisman Cult.1BC1D591-F585-4EC1-96F1-1BA954EAFCE8.jpeg
 
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It has had a meteoric rise to 'success' for sure... the rub is it doesn't really do any one thing better than any number of other cartridges before it - but it was marketed better.

Lots of new shooters read the ads, drank the Koolaid, and got their first taste of 'long range precision' with the Creedmoor. Not a bad thing... but they tend to be a little over-enthusiastic telling literally *everybody* who will sit still long enough about it ;)

Yes, I have several. And I had a .260 Rem before that, and a 6.5-08 before that, and a 6-6.5x47L along the way. All good cartridges... Hornady just out-marketed them.
 
It's some of the people who own them, and the wildly unbelievable claims you'll hear. You see it often on other internet boards.

That said, it's an awesome round for 'general purpose' accurate shooting; I can't think of a discipline outside of MR F-Class where it'd be considered competitive though (any/any maybe?).

I've had 3 6.5CM barrels spun up, and I love everything about the cartridge, except having to admit I'm shooting a 6.5CM. I like it significantly better than my previous .260 Rems.
 
milanuk said:
It has had a meteoric rise to 'success' for sure... the rub is it doesn't really do any one thing better than any number of other cartridges before it - but it was marketed better.

Lots of new shooters read the ads, drank the Koolaid, and got their first taste of 'long range precision' with the Creedmoor. Not a bad thing... but they tend to be a little over-enthusiastic telling literally *everybody* who will sit still long enough about it ;)

Yes, I have several. And I had a .260 Rem before that, and a 6.5-08 before that, and a 6-6.5x47L along the way. All good cartridges... Hornady just out-marketed them.
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I remember looking at ballistic charts back then and thinking “shit, this mimics 300WM pretty closely, at least out to 1000 yds”. And back then, you had to build a rifle, not buy one. And roll your own rounds, like I’m sure those testers were doing.

But wait, there’s more! I actually went semi nuts for a bit: I bought a Savage! To me, a Savage has always been Elmer Fudd’s Gun.
Or the old coot down the street who ices a Coon or Armadillo when they dig up his garden.
It must be my rapidly advancing age or something....
 
DirtySteve said:
I know like that time I saw a fly on my target at 600 yards. I got him on the first shot.. That kind of stuff?
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Yep.

I saw one a few weeks back where someone was saying they were banging a 18" gong at 1800 with boring regularity with their 6.5 CM shooting 140gr ELDMs.

I also saw a guy claim that when his kid came of age, he wouldn't allow him to shoot one at long range, because he wanted the kid to actually have to read wind, thus would be shooting a .308. (The implication being the 6.5CM was cheating).

It just brings out the idiots (on both sides).

I will say I shot one of my 6.5CMs in MR/LR F-Class when I first got started; It was a really accurate barrel. Oddly enough, my scores jumped up dramatically when I started shooting .308s.
 
DirtySteve said:
I know like that time I saw a fly on my target at 600 yards. I got him on the first shot.. That kind of stuff
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joshb said:
Ah, well....... you are new here! You must have missed the Creedmoor wars.
You can use the search feature and catch up. Lots of laughs, actually!
I joined in on the fun and bashed it while building one and buying a Tikka CTR chambered for it. I put my build in a ridiculously yellow stock, just for fun! Skeetlee did the chamber job for the Winchester 70 action. I’m even a member of the beloved and highly secretive Creedmoor Talisman Cult.View attachment 1212501
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That is a bit hideous, isn’t it. But look on the bright (and I mean BRIGHT side). It’ll never, ever get stolen, and if someone picks it up by mistake, you know to stay off the roads when they’re out, because they're colorblind as hell.
 
MikeMcCasland said:
Yep.

I saw one a few weeks back where someone was saying they were banging a 18" gong at 1800 with boring regularity with their 6.5 CM shooting 140gr ELDMs.

I also saw a guy claim that when his kid came of age, he wouldn't allow him to shoot one at long range, because he wanted the kid to actually have to read wind, thus would be shooting a .308. (The implication being the 6.5CM was cheating).

It just brings out the idiots (on both sides).

I will say I shot one of my 6.5CMs in MR/LR F-Class when I first got started; It was a really accurate barrel. Oddly enough, my scores jumped up dramatically when I started shooting .308s.
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A 308 does make you stop and think. If you want to hit anything past 600 other than dirt, you better know your rifle and loads. Not sure on the 6.5, not enough trigger time yet.
 
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