7mm08 used in 100yd benchrest?
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Has anyone ever seen a 7mm-08 shoot like this?
But to answer your question more directly, I've never heard of a 7-08 on the line in a benchrest tournament. Of course, it may have happened. But a 7-08 has too much recoil in LV and HV to be competitive at short range unless very light bullets are used. I don't know that any benchrest-quality lightweight 7mm bullets are available.
What makes you think that a 7-08 might be competitive?
But to answer your question more directly, I've never heard of a 7-08 on the line in a benchrest tournament. Of course, it may have happened. But a 7-08 has too much recoil in LV and HV to be competitive at short range unless very light bullets are used. I don't know that any benchrest-quality lightweight 7mm bullets are available.
What makes you think that a 7-08 might be competitive?
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Has anyone ever seen a 7mm-08 shoot like this?
But to answer your question more directly, I've never heard of a 7-08 on the line in a benchrest tournament. Of course, it may have happened. But a 7-08 has too much recoil in LV and HV to be competitive at short range unless very light bullets are used. I don't know that any benchrest-quality lightweight 7mm bullets are available.
What makes you think that a 7-08 might be competitive?
Would a 7-08 have much more recoil than a 30BR ?
I never thought of the availability of good light weight 7mm bullets.
Around here we shoot for score not group if it makes much difference
Thanks
You can run the recoil calculation yourself. A 7-08 case holds 10gr more powder than a 30BR case, but a 7mm bullet with the same BC as a 118gr .30 caliber bullet would be lighter. Probably any recoil difference would be minor, but in favor of the 30BR.
If you're score shooting to 300 yards the path of least resistance is a 30BR -- super accurate, big hole to catch the X dot, great custom bullets available.
Nope!
GSPV
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You pick the cartridge for the format.
Even when it’s 100-300 score, the 30 BR might not be the cartridge, depending on other aspects of the rules.
One simple example is best edge vs worst edge scoring. Yes, there are formats with worst edge scoring. I sometimes shoot in one with a *combination* of best edge and worst edge scoring.
UBR is another example. It uses three different targets scaled for 22, 243, and 308 such that the “hole size” advantage that the 30 has in IBS VFS is gone.
A less obvious example might be a “grip and rip” rule (no sighters) at a range. That tends to favor higher BC bullets. I shoot in one of those, too.
Another thing in that format is that they do everything they can to hide bullet holes from you. So that you can’t use your previous shot as a sighter. Tends to favor larger bullet holes.
Just as a thought experiment, would the 6 PPC *dominate* in short range benchrest if the weight limit was changed to say 22 pounds like F-Open. Or would people be more open to heavier, higher BC bullets driven by an appropriately larger case?
OK, I’ll quit rambling now.
Even when it’s 100-300 score, the 30 BR might not be the cartridge, depending on other aspects of the rules.
One simple example is best edge vs worst edge scoring. Yes, there are formats with worst edge scoring. I sometimes shoot in one with a *combination* of best edge and worst edge scoring.
UBR is another example. It uses three different targets scaled for 22, 243, and 308 such that the “hole size” advantage that the 30 has in IBS VFS is gone.
A less obvious example might be a “grip and rip” rule (no sighters) at a range. That tends to favor higher BC bullets. I shoot in one of those, too.
Another thing in that format is that they do everything they can to hide bullet holes from you. So that you can’t use your previous shot as a sighter. Tends to favor larger bullet holes.
Just as a thought experiment, would the 6 PPC *dominate* in short range benchrest if the weight limit was changed to say 22 pounds like F-Open. Or would people be more open to heavier, higher BC bullets driven by an appropriately larger case?
OK, I’ll quit rambling now.
GSPV
A failure to plan is a plan for failure.
Score? 100 yards? Open? (What is “open”, in this format?).
No weight limit? No caliber limit?
Oh, my, what about a 358 WSM x 1.8” ?
Now, where can we find an appropriate bullet?
Ooopppsss, there I went again. Got to flip the “What If Switch” back to the off position.
No weight limit? No caliber limit?
Oh, my, what about a 358 WSM x 1.8” ?
Now, where can we find an appropriate bullet?
Ooopppsss, there I went again. Got to flip the “What If Switch” back to the off position.
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So it is what is called a club or fun shoot. My experience with these are they are shortlived and building a gun for one venue does not make much sense. Take what you have- choosing a set-up that you can shoot comfortably for all 30 + rounds in that limited time frame. If you have a 7/08 in mind, I believe you will find the recoil will affect your ability to shoot as well as you are capable of with a more suitable cartridge. Remember it's called a "fun" shoot for a reason......repeated recoil in a short period of time is not my idea of fun....neither is loosing.
I've shot my F-Class 7-08 in one or two 600 and 1,000 yard UK BR matches in Heavy Gun class. (After a lot of too-ing and fro-ing in the rules, we've tried 10 round groups in HG here and gone back to 4 x 5-round strings as per Light Gun.)
The 22lb 7-08 rifle performed OK, but against a 40lb + specialist HG rifle in 6 Dasher or even straight 6BR, or even somewhat lighter 6.5X47Ls, no chance. To me as well as it being a bit of fun, it's a chance to see just how good one's F-Class rifles and ammunition are at longer distances in a BR setting. I've found some loads / bullets would produce significantly poorer or better elevations than others with this being a lot more obvious than it is in an F-Class match shot over 40-60 minutes. (We shoot F two and three to the mound here each shooter taking a single shot in sequence after the target is marked.) So I'd take two apparently good loads to the BR match and shoot two groups each with them.
As to short-range BR ... well if you want to be reliably last in the results sheet, a BR rifle built to the whatever association rules in 7mm-08 wouldn't be the worst choice ever (28 Nosler; 300 RUM?) but it'd be a contender for this accolade
. Its parent .308 Win was used by some of Warren Page's generation a long time ago in the days of reworked Mauser 98 and sleeved Rem 722 rifle actions, but it was driven out by 222 Rem and other early 22 centrefires reworked for the BR game.
The 22lb 7-08 rifle performed OK, but against a 40lb + specialist HG rifle in 6 Dasher or even straight 6BR, or even somewhat lighter 6.5X47Ls, no chance. To me as well as it being a bit of fun, it's a chance to see just how good one's F-Class rifles and ammunition are at longer distances in a BR setting. I've found some loads / bullets would produce significantly poorer or better elevations than others with this being a lot more obvious than it is in an F-Class match shot over 40-60 minutes. (We shoot F two and three to the mound here each shooter taking a single shot in sequence after the target is marked.) So I'd take two apparently good loads to the BR match and shoot two groups each with them.
As to short-range BR ... well if you want to be reliably last in the results sheet, a BR rifle built to the whatever association rules in 7mm-08 wouldn't be the worst choice ever (28 Nosler; 300 RUM?) but it'd be a contender for this accolade
. Its parent .308 Win was used by some of Warren Page's generation a long time ago in the days of reworked Mauser 98 and sleeved Rem 722 rifle actions, but it was driven out by 222 Rem and other early 22 centrefires reworked for the BR game.
GSPV
A failure to plan is a plan for failure.
Find a used 30 BR on here. One built for VFS. They have long barrel life, but you still need to get someone to scope it and make sure it isn’t shot out.
Put on a used Leupold 45x LCS or even a 36x Weaver and go shoot.
Recently, 30 cal benchrest bullets have been hard to come by. But, for what you’re doing the Speer 125 gr TNT would do just fine.
Put on a used Leupold 45x LCS or even a 36x Weaver and go shoot.
Recently, 30 cal benchrest bullets have been hard to come by. But, for what you’re doing the Speer 125 gr TNT would do just fine.
These are Berger 115s, which also shoot OK in my 30BR.
Nice target Toby. Love my 30 BR and easy to tune. Load at home the night before and just have to worry about the wind and shooting on match day.
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