Why isn’t Varget ideal for 6BRA?

[Clancy]

Super overrated? Varget might not be the best powder for a specific rifle, but it shoots good in rifles from .223 to .308 with heavy or light bullets.

Super.

 

[Chuckhunter]

H-4895 worked so well in my BRA that I never tried Varget. A lot of the guys that shoot the BRA at Williamssport switched to N-140 when 4895 became to hard to get and after talking to a lot of those fellows, most have stayed with the N-140 and are very happy with the results. Just some food for thought.

 

[madmixerman]

Varget shoots well in my 6bra's as does 150. They didn't like H4895.

 

[ridgeway]

Barrel/bullet i am running will not work with H4895. IMO, H4895 is grossly overrated!

 

[Clancy]

Some people may think I meant varget was super overrated in the BRA.

I meant across the board. It’s just a dirty, mid burn rate powder ………..that you can find anywhere, so it got popular.

I’m sure there’s some barrels if works great in. In fact, I think I had one… but it’s a last resort for me before declaring one a tomato stake.

With Vihtavuori having multiple powders surrounding it on the burn chart, I just can’t see why anyone would pursue Varget in this day and age.

 

[tom]

It's been the powder 1 dasher and 2 BRA barrels have picked for me, so i don't know where that came from . It's one of the powders you should be trying on day one when you're letting the barrel pick a powder.

Tom

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Some people may think I meant varget was super overrated in the BRA.

I meant across the board. It’s just a dirty, mid burn rate powder ………..that you can find anywhere, so it got popular.

I’m sure there’s some barrels if works great in. In fact, I think I had one… but it’s a last resort for me before declaring one a tomato stake.

With Vihtavuori having multiple powders surrounding it on the burn chart, I just can’t see why anyone would pursue Varget in this day and age.

I got 10 pounds of it that they replaced for the 4166, I’m going to try it in the straight 6BR with the heavies, fingers crossed.

 

[Owens85]

Varget has shot great in a couple barrels for me one a absolute hammer. It's not always the right powder but it is the right one sometimes. Over rated well maybe lol but it wins pretty often.

 

[madmixerman]

I got 10 pounds of it that they replaced for the 4166, I’m going to try it in the straight 6BR with the heavies, fingers crossed.

Should work fine with 105's around 30 grs. ,give or take a couple tenths.

 

[Bill Norris]

Should work fine with 105's around 30 grs. ,give or take a couple tenths.

Yea, lots of 6BR guys say if it won't shoot 105 gr. bullet with 30 gr. Varget something must be wrong.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Yea, lots of 6BR guys say if it won't shoot 105 gr. bullet with 30 gr. Varget something must be wrong.

Agreed. Back to the very beginning of this forum!!

 

[ronsatspokane]

When it comes down to those who think Varget does not work the question boils down to: is it the arrow or the Indian? My 6BRA has shot 48 X's out of 60 shots (3 strings of 20 each) using Varget. Not the arrow... just saying...

Varget works in a lot of things.

 

[boltfluter]

Some people may think I meant varget was super overrated in the BRA.

I meant across the board. It’s just a dirty, mid burn rate powder ………..that you can find anywhere, so it got popular.

I’m sure there’s some barrels if works great in. In fact, I think I had one… but it’s a last resort for me before declaring one a tomato stake.

With Vihtavuori having multiple powders surrounding it on the burn chart, I just can’t see why anyone would pursue Varget in this day and age.

Not my experience at all. In my 6 Dashers, Varget is always the powder to beat. So far anyways. Being virtually inert to temperature changes is a huge plus for me in a hunting rifle. Not sure how VV140 is as far as temperature/pressure is concerned. At some point, Hodgedon will make me switch to VV powders, to get away from being gouged at the checkout line. We are getting close! Lol.
Paul

 

[urbanrifleman]

I got this text this morning and thought of this thread. Hahaha

6br, 105 hybrid and 30 grains of Varget.

 

[SKWERLZ]

Yea, lots of 6BR guys say if it won't shoot 105 gr. bullet with 30 gr. Varget something must be wrong.

This!

 

[urbanrifleman]

the read out says 7 shots at 1.28 moa, is that correct ?

I'm not sure. It's not my target. As far as I know that 10 ring is 1 moa.

 

[shoot4fun]

the read out says 7 shots at 1.28 moa, is that correct ?

Per this info I would say correct or very close to it.
For NRA Long Range 1000-yard targets, the scoring rings vary depending on the discipline (F-Class, etc.) and the specific target type. Generally, F-Class uses a 36" square target with a 5" x-ring and 10" 10-ring. For NRA Long Range, the 10-ring is typically 2 MOA, and the x-ring is 1 MOA.
That means his total group size was around 12".
To be fair though six of the seven fell into under 5".
Of course, the thread was about 6BRA and Varget and that post does at least mention Varget.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I have shot 6bra... 12 years now? Something like that... Before that I shot 6br for 25. Also been shooting the 22bra for 5-6 years now.

To say Varget doesn't work in 6bra but is a standard GO TO load in 6br (and is over rated), is just... well... misinformed...

Tanner Burrows just set a record this weekend (perfect 25x) in Oklahoma shooting 6bra/Berger 108/N150 (if anyone wanted to know)---I wouldn't want to be "off topic".

N140 is essentially the doppleganger for Varget and loads are basically interchangeable. I would say there are a ton of guys shooting N140 and N150 in their 6br/bra rifles these days and doing quite well.

 

[Clancy]

I have shot 6bra... 12 years now? Something like that... Before that I shot 6br for 25. Also been shooting the 22bra for 5-6 years now.

To say Varget doesn't work in 6bra but is a standard GO TO load in 6br (and is over rated), is just... well... misinformed...

Tanner Burrows just set a record this weekend (perfect 25x) in Oklahoma shooting 6bra/Berger 108/N150 (if anyone wanted to know)---I wouldn't want to be "off topic".

N140 is essentially the doppleganger for Varget and loads are basically interchangeable. I would say there are a ton of guys shooting N140 and N150 in their 6br/bra rifles these days and doing quite well.

N140 is definitely NOT interchangeable with Varget. N150 is much closer. N140 is faster.

Curious, why didn’t Tanner set that record with Varget? Was he perhaps…. misinformed like myself?

I don’t cash checks from ANYBODY but I can tell you that with very few exceptions, Vihtavuori just makes better powder.

So, with Vihtavuori at $300 a jug to the house and Varget at closer to 460, what word would you use to describe Varget?

If I were going to pay Hodgdon prices, it would be for H4895, which has the pedigree to justify its price tag- in the BRA.

 

[urbanrifleman]

So, with Vihtavuori at $300 a jug to the house and Varget at closer to 460, what word would you use to describe Varget?

Monopoly?

I get it. I do not shoot Varget, I used too. I do know a ton of my customers do and are very happy with their 6br/6bra/Dashers.