When to anneal

[Shooter13]

If you anneal every time you shoot you don't have to segregate the brass, much easier for me.

 

[misser]

I write on cases all the time, a little Alcohol it comes right off.

cleaning ?? i have a machine that does that for me . drink a beer ,relax,take a nap or all of the above

 

[Bc'z]

I write on cases all the time, a little Alcohol it comes right off.

Enough Alcohol and none of this really matters.
Brother it's 112° And I'm on a beer run.

 

[DiRTY DOG]

one at a time ?

Let's be honest. The majority of BR/class shooters are of retirement age with nothing better to do.

My list of honey-do's is so long, that tossing brass in the tumbler is a multitasking time saver. Plus my brass is clean.

 

[Jim Ziegler]

Im with ya’ none of this tit for tat crap matters to me either. It’s 100* here and I’m making root beer floats later.
J

Now ya went and done it, I'm going to have to stop at the store and get some fixins!

 

[ronemus]

FWIW: If you wet tumble, anneal after you tumble.

I've proven to myself that annealing after sizing will change case dimensions, and seating force becomes inconsistent; annealing should be done before sizing to achieve consistently sized cases. I also trim/chamfer/debur (Gracey) after sizing and wet tumbling because sizing will change case length and wet tumbling peens the case mouth. My wet tumbling is done after sizing because I need to remove the lube. All of these are bulk processes (1000+ cases in a batch) so I simplify as much as possible - cleaning with a cloth, trimming by hand, etc. are right out.

 

[Dave M.]

Dave’s brass makes mine look good.

23 firings and never touched the outside of the necks with anything. Last time I shot this rifle and brass, it scored a 599-36X at 600 yards on a fairly switchy wind day.
Dave

 

[Dave M.]

If I were doing 50 or less, the second tumble would not happen. Load a minimum of 500 for varmints, tell me how that works for ya.
Also the second tumble for varmint brass and mineral spirits or alcohol, I have used both is maybe for 3-5 minutes tops, just to get the lube off.
Imho any one that doesn’t clean the lube off, loads and then shoots are not doing their selves any favors.

I want my brass clean and shiny so I can visually see any issues. I have seen folks do well with brass that looks like they found it in the parking lot. Prefer my brass to be clean and shiny, like my women.
Sorry if that is coarse. I have seen some dandies at truck stops over the years, don’t want nothing to do with those either.

lol, are you saying that your varmint rifle requires a higher level of accuracy than an F open rifle?? I’m fairly positive that my dirty ass brass will outshoot the cleanest brass you can load for your varmint rifle. If you compete anywhere near Michigan, let me know and we can see. No offense but I like my brass like I like my women in the bedroom, the dirtier the better.
Dave

 

[Dave M.]

the reason for the wet tumble is to get the writing off . i write what powder ,how much powder , sometimes the bullet even seating

Alcohol on a rag removes sharpie easily, so does a crazy cloth.
Dave

 

[LVLAaron]

Alcohol on a rag removes sharpie easily, so does a crazy cloth.
Dave

I'm going to order a new crazy cloth. I got one a few years ago and it turned everything brass it touched, green and corroded it.

 

[Dave M.]

Let's be honest. The majority of BR/class shooters are of retirement age with nothing better to do.

My list of honey-do's is so long, that tossing brass in the tumbler is a multitasking time saver. Plus my brass is clean.

If your honey do list is that long, you need to get a new honey. Lol

 

[LVLAaron]

What you need, is your honey to process brass while you cut the grass.

 

[D Coots]

cleaning ?? i have a machine that does that for me . drink a beer ,relax,take a nap or all of the above

What's her name?

 

[drop_point]

I quit tumbling a few months ago.
Alcohol, brake cleaner or everyone's new hot spit favorite SprayAway glass cleaner will remove sharpie.

Drink the alcohol while the tumbler cleans the brass

 

[misser]

Drink the alcohol while the tumbler cleans the brass

thinking he meant isopropyl alcohol , not something ya would want to drink. morman ?

 

[Bc'z]

Drink the alcohol while the tumbler cleans the brass

Come on now...
I'm drinkin my alcohol in a tumbler.I'm coming to the conclusion there's real world problems that are more important than shiny brass.
112° today real world problem

 

[Bc'z]

I didn't run it off the rails, but I love a good wreck....
so WTF were we discussin, oh yeah being anal

 

[Webster]

So with all the great and not so great info on the net. When do you anneal in your process. Primal rights vid shows to anneal before any other process. Right after you fire them. Other's do it after they deprime and clean. i don't get turning the brass red hot and burning the carbon on or into the brass. Same for Keith Glasscock.

142 replies to explain when to anneal. To many lonely people at the key board.

 

[Bottom Fodder]

142 replies to explain when to anneal. To many lonely people at the key board.

And basically cut throw the crap one size don’t fit along just do what works for you. And you are right key board cowboys thrive here

 

[AICS308]

I have tested primer pocket cleaning versus uncleaned at 600 and 1000 yards and it’s just noise, it makes no difference. Because of this I stopped cleaning primer pockets 2 years ago. As for the outside of the necks, I will wipe them down really quick with a crazy cloth after every 5 firings (which I keep track of in a book, but I’ve also tested 5X fired uncleaned necks against 5X fired necks cleaned with a crazy cloth, and again it was nothing but noise. I merely do it every 5X firings for a tiny bit of piece of mind. Although, as a side note, I just started this process on my .284 brass at the end of the 2022 season. My Lapua brass for my 6 dasher has 23+ firings on the brass and I have never once cleaned the outside of the necks, and it’s an absolute hammer (see the pics of the brass necks and patina below).
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That is some great looking brass! Looks like it’s been antiqued. The guys I shoot with would have a canniption fit.