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What's the "hot property" scope, these days?

see what happens when you do not provide CORRECT INFO ??
you said target and actually it is a prs steel ringer.


PRS *is* purely a target sport .... I didn't imagine I needed to say NOT for F-class or BR since its a semi. But yeah.... I'll shoot a x-ring *target* occasionally. So....its a target gun. Also...its NOT a hunting gun.

A thought.... accusing ppl of not providing correct into is a bit hostile. I'm looking for info here....not an argument. Please. Thank you. Have a pleasant day. :)
 
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I have had good experiences with the 4-16 and 5-24 ATACR, and Bushnell XRS scopes. A good friend has the 7-35 ATACR with the MIL-XT reticle and I think it's a great reticle for tactical/PRS use.

The new Burris XTR Pro is looking like a good option but I haven't been able to get behind one yet.
 

if you are going to be shooting PRS matches I would pay attention to some of the top shooters and what they use. They use them for a reason. Whether they have a wider field of view. More forgiving eye relieve like a specific reticle or maybe they were just sponsored by that optics company. There are a lot of reasons why people choose what they choose. 99% of shooters are awesome guys that will let you handle their optics so you can see what you personally prefer. also go over to snipershide and do some research. they are a prs community for the most part and have a lot of good info on prs scopes.
 
The newer model Kahles 5-25 has Swarovski HD glass. A buddy of mine has one and said it’s amazing. Some of the best glass he has seen. Way better than the older 6-24x Kahles or current 10-50x that have Kahles glass. He has owned or has experience with just about every top tier high power competition scope out there so he knows his optics quite well. Swarovski owns Kahles so hoping Swarovski starts putting their glass in all the high end Kahles scopes. The Kahles 10-50x with it’s amazing strength and reliability along with the Swaro HD glass would be a home run for sure
 
In my limited PRS comps that I’ve done the scopes I see on a regular basis in order of prevalence

Vortex Razor Gen II
NF ATACR 5-25 or 7-35
Kahles 525i or similar like the 624 or 318
ZCO

At my last comp vortex debuted the Gen III razor and a bunch of sponsored guys were shooting it.

Then the poors (myself included)

Vortex PST GENII
Bushnell DMRII or XRSII
Athlon Ares or Cronus
Burris XTR II
 
+1 on the Trijicon 4.5-30x56. I’ve been using one for 4 years now. Amazing top of the line Japanese glass. Better glass than NightForce NX8 or NXS. I can see my 30 cal holes in the target at 870 yards quite easily. Great illumination function, super easy to use zero stop, 25 MOA per revolution of the turret, tool-less turret zero reset, plus legendary Trijicon customer service should you ever need it. But I doubt you will ever need CS because the scope is built like a tank.

Can find great deals on the Trijicon from time to time if you are patient.

And FYI, you can still range with most second focal plane reticle scopes. Just need to have it set at the power stated in the manual for ranging. Trijicon has the magnification required for ranging etched into the glass below the reticle so you never forget what power it needs to be at when looking thru the scope. I don’t like FFP because in wide mag range scopes the reticle is so small on low magnification it’s totally useless then on high magnification it’s sometimes way too thick for precise aiming. But Trijicon does make a FFP model if that’s what you think you need (even tho you don’t ;) )

Now you got me thinking...
 
So when it comes to FFP, does anybody actually range with their reticle these days even in PRS? I shoot F Class so the distances are known and FFP is out given that at high power the reticle blocks the target. I do use a Trijicon 5-50 which is SFP on one rifle, love the scope. Run a Nightforce Competition on another. Both good scopes. For PRS I think the Trijicon build would hold up the the beating a bit better.
 
So when it comes to FFP, does anybody actually range with their reticle these days even in PRS? I shoot F Class so the distances are known and FFP is out given that at high power the reticle blocks the target. I do use a Trijicon 5-50 which is SFP on one rifle, love the scope. Run a Nightforce Competition on another. Both good scopes. For PRS I think the Trijicon build would hold up the the beating a bit better.

I do a lot. I had a stage where my range finder failed me and using my reticle to range got me some points. My partner has a Kahles with a ruler in it so very little math involved when we are working together. If not, I have the formula on my dope card.

The best thing about FFP is not worrying about your data being messed up as you go through the magnification ranges. Not necessarily ranging. Although ranging is a plus.
 
So when it comes to FFP, does anybody actually range with their reticle these days even in PRS? I shoot F Class so the distances are known and FFP is out given that at high power the reticle blocks the target. I do use a Trijicon 5-50 which is SFP on one rifle, love the scope. Run a Nightforce Competition on another. Both good scopes. For PRS I think the Trijicon build would hold up the the beating a bit better.

I'm getting into centerfire F class. Been doing rimfire F-class for a while and in both cases, SFP is all ya need, given the distances are known.

I don' t shoot PRS (bad knees) but shoot alot of ranges with unknown distance steel, so FFP scopes are essential to geting on steel.
 
I do a lot. I had a stage where my range finder failed me and using my reticle to range got me some points. My partner has a Kahles with a ruler in it so very little math involved when we are working together. If not, I have the formula on my dope card.

The best thing about FFP is not worrying about your data being messed up as you go through the magnification ranges. Not necessarily ranging. Although ranging is a plus.
Ok. I guess I figured that everyone was using one of the many high quality range finders for distance these days. In F Class I rarely change my magnification unless mirage is terrible then I dial down the magnification but my dope remains the same. Very very rarely I dial magnification up when atmospheric conditions are extraordinary. Start at 40 power and go from there but rarely change. I use a ballistic calculator that I've punched in my load variables as well as altitude, temp, humidity and barometric pressure. That gives me the minutes I need to come up for any given distance. It's like a couple keystrokes on my cell phone. Never needed to print a dope card. Are electronics forbidden in PRS?
 
Ok. I guess I figured that everyone was using one of the many high quality range finders for distance these days. In F Class I rarely change my magnification unless mirage is terrible then I dial down the magnification but my dope remains the same. Very very rarely I dial magnification up when atmospheric conditions are extraordinary. Start at 40 power and go from there but rarely change. I use a ballistic calculator that I've punched in my load variables as well as altitude, temp, humidity and barometric pressure. That gives me the minutes I need to come up for any given distance. It's like a couple keystrokes on my cell phone. Never needed to print a dope card. Are electronics forbidden in PRS?

They make stages to trick the range finder or at least trick the users. When I meant our range finder failed, the stages we shot were set up that way. It didn’t electronically fail us. I should have clarified, sorry. It was a forcing function to figure out distance a different way.

Guys use Krestels, expensive range finders, the works, but they still have dope cards. Either on the side of their rifles, a swing out scope mounted one, or on a wrist band.
 
I do a lot. I had a stage where my range finder failed me and using my reticle to range got me some points. My partner has a Kahles with a ruler in it so very little math involved when we are working together. If not, I have the formula on my dope card.

The best thing about FFP is not worrying about your data being messed up as you go through the magnification ranges. Not necessarily ranging. Although ranging is a plus.
Which reticle in the Kahles?
 

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