What's the "hot property" scope, these days?

[Fuj]

Hensoldt does'nt make a true high magnification rifle scope,
but do offer a much larger optic in relation to the 6-24 x 72.
It would surely need extra high rings to clear the barrel. And
what was said about FFP's. I got caught up in it early on with
the testing I do. I'm down to 7 scopes and all SFP's

 

[SKWERLZ]

tt no history ( 9 years old. no list of grass source, not list of glass coatings, no list of actual employes only "professionals" only low magnification scopes..a very narrow market. no market history...who uses them..what mil what government ?? a name brand pushed by armament. they have nothing to justify the costs..\
IMHO.......again the question was target shooting to 800 yards,,the have no scope that fits
stay in context...TARGET SHOOTING TO 800 YARDS.....
not steel not hunting

TT has a premiere scopes lineage and one look through the glass will show how good it is.
Premier absolutely had military use.

ZCO in new but lots of well regarded engineers there and it shows, glass is excellent and makes mirage very readable and that marvelous image where the scope periphery seems to disappear.

 

[SKWERLZ]

Hensoldt does'nt make a true high magnification rifle scope,
but do offer a much larger optic in relation to the 6-24 x 72.
It would surely need extra high rings to clear the barrel. And
what was said about FFP's. I got caught up in it early on with
the testing I do. I'm down to 7 scopes and all SFP's

I wish they’d modernize the old 4X16, still a fantastic scope just needs a bit of modern love.

 

[6bra1k]

TT has a premiere scopes lineage and one look through the glass will show how good it is.
Premier absolutely had military use.

ZCO in new but lots of well regarded engineers there and it shows, glass is excellent and makes mirage very readable and that marvelous image where the scope periphery seems to disappear.

so again stayin in CONTEXT...where are tt's high POWERED target scopes....( 25 is not high power)

 

[R.Morehouse]

Don't decide until you do a deep dive on the Valdada Recon G-2 4.8-30x56.

Regards
Rick

 

[GetReal]

. I'm down to 7 scopes and all SFP's

What shooting discipline? This is gonna be a PRS gun. Yes, i know if ya get 2FP on the correct magnification it can work, but why limit myself?

 

[300_whisper]

There’s also the Cronus. That comes in 29x. I’ve owned a Cronus. Very nice scope and can be had for $1400 new. Also the XRS II and XRS III are very nice as well. I own 4 DMRIIs and 1 XRSII. Those will serve you well. The XRS more so with the 30x mag.

 

[Fuj]

What shooting discipline? This is gonna be a PRS gun. Yes, i know if ya get 2FP on the correct magnification it can work, but why limit myself?

I'm an old speed shooter with a preference for a Bushnell Mil Dot SFP.
Hold overs using the Mil Dot system is fast for me. The old saying goes
though, "The older I get, the faster I was". I found the FFP's to be a bit
busy. and went back to the SFP's as I settled into the slower and more
relaxed BR shooting from 100 yards, out to the horizon. All I can say is
buy what you think you need. and practice with it.

I'll recommend a Bushnell XRS-3 or a Night Force ATACR.

 

[Rset]

This will be for 6 ARC semi out to 800+ yards. I'll be handloading for precision and want a FFP scope. Target use only. I like using the reticle more than dialing for distance.

Seems the Leup MK5 was a big deal for a while. I got a Athlon Ares BTG Gen 2 4.5-27 x 50 in the safe. I'd like to take a step (or two) up from that.

Suggestions needed. Thanx.

Whats wrong with the Athlon you have in a FFP scope for what you are looking to do?.

 

[GetReal]

Whats wrong with the Athlon you have in a FFP scope for what you are looking to do?.

Nuthin' really I guess..... guess I'm always on the hunt ....

 

[Fuj]

Whats wrong with the Athlon you have in a FFP scope for what you are looking to do?.

I think the BTR is the only scope made in Japan. The rest of Athlon
is sourced from China.

 

[Rset]

I think the BTR is the only scope made in Japan. The rest of Athlon
is sourced from China.

Does it matter as long as the glass is clear and it suits the purpose? Why buy a new scope when one you have fits the application?.

 

[FarmerDave]

+1 on the Trijicon 4.5-30x56. I’ve been using one for 4 years now. Amazing top of the line Japanese glass. Better glass than NightForce NX8 or NXS. I can see my 30 cal holes in the target at 870 yards quite easily. Great illumination function, super easy to use zero stop, 25 MOA per revolution of the turret, tool-less turret zero reset, plus legendary Trijicon customer service should you ever need it. But I doubt you will ever need CS because the scope is built like a tank.

Got to agree with Ledd here. I have an Accupower 4.5x30-56 and the NF ATACR. For my needs there is not enough difference to warrent 2x the price difference...

 

[Txhillbilly]

What would re regard as a Tier 1 scope ?

Tangent Theta
Zero Compromise
March
S&B
Night Force - ATACR
Kahles
IOR

 

[Txhillbilly]

I own IOR and many others. Valdada has by hands down the best glass. March is a very close second. March has excellent customer support. IOR is in Europe with major issues at the moment. Customer service for Valdada is not so good at the moment. If you have the money, can’t go wrong with March. Their glass is awesome.

What are the "major" issues with IOR? I haven't heard of any in decades.
I've had a Recon for years, and it's been flawless. It tracks perfectly out to a mile, and I like the glass in it more than my S&B PM II's.

I will say the best glass that I've ever looked through is the Tangent Theta and ZCO.

 

[6bra1k]

What shooting discipline? This is gonna be a PRS gun. Yes, i know if ya get 2FP on the correct magnification it can work, but why limit myself?

see what happens when you do not provide CORRECT INFO ??
you said target and actually it is a prs steel ringer.

 

[Woofie]

I wish OPs would talk about their budget. OK, so we are shooting out to 800 yards and precision is a requirement.
If money isn't an issue I'd echo @R.Morehouse and go with the Valdada Recon G2. Truly a pinnacle scope. Any more spent in their range is probably money that could be spent elsewhere.
If you are looking at a Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30, may I suggest looking at the Delta Stryker 4.5-30? Same manufacturer (LOW) but with three reticle options. I like the DLR-1 but that's a personal preference. We have all three reticles in stock and we are running cheaper than the Tenmile.
If funds are an issue: I recently put a Delta Javelin 4.5-30 on my #2 one-mile (actually 1,800 yards) rifle. I use and like the`SMR-2 reticle but the SMR-1 has a "Christmas tree" if you like. Like YT reviewer Richard Utting, I am completely taken aback by the optical quality of this 'scope which we are retailing just North of $1,000 (the other Delta dealers too). All Chinese glass but for the price I'm really impressed. This scope shoots very well for me at 1,800 yards, cuts mirage well, etc.
How people view through 'scopes is a very personal thing. My own thoughts are that if you are spending >$2K on this project it's probably money that can be used elsewhere, but honestly, if whatever you buy gives you the most confidence when you snuggle up behind the rifle, go for it.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I wish OPs would talk about their budget. OK, so we are shooting out to 800 yards and precision is a requirement.
If money isn't an issue I'd echo @R.Morehouse and go with the Valdada Recon G2. Truly a pinnacle scope. Any more spent in their range is probably money that could be spent elsewhere.
If you are looking at a Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30, may I suggest looking at the Delta Stryker 4.5-30? Same manufacturer (LOW) but with three reticle options. I like the DLR-1 but that's a personal preference. We have all three reticles in stock and we are running cheaper than the Tenmile.
If funds are an issue: I recently put a Delta Javelin 4.5-30 on my #2 one-mile (actually 1,800 yards) rifle. I use and like the`SMR-2 reticle but the SMR-1 has a "Christmas tree" if you like. Like YT reviewer Richard Utting, I am completely taken aback by the optical quality of this 'scope which we are retailing just North of $1,000 (the other Delta dealers too). All Chinese glass but for the price I'm really impressed. This scope shoots very well for me at 1,800 yards, cuts mirage well, etc.
How people view through 'scopes is a very personal thing. My own thoughts are that if you are spending >$2K on this project it's probably money that can be used elsewhere, but honestly, if whatever you buy gives you the most confidence when you snuggle up behind the rifle, go for it.

Chinese scopes and other optics can have very good glass these days. But you have to be careful that you aren’t fooled by the diamond dangling in front of the dung pile. The biggest difference I’ve seen is that over time the Chinese glass and coatings will deteriorate and gradually produce worse and worse images. Everything is great for a while and you think you got an amazing deal but then a while later after normal to hard use in the field where lenses have to be cleaned often you notice it’s hard to focus or not as bright as it used to be in low light. This is usually due to cheap coatings wearing off and/or lenses falling out of alignment.

Top tier quality Japanese and German schott glass scopes with great durable coatings from well renowned manufacturers deliver the same crisp and bright image 20 years later as they do when the scopes were brand new.

Then we all know about the difference in mechanical reliability. A Chinese scope usually cuts corners to save money by reducing the quality of glass/coatings and internal components. Which of course are the most important parts of a scope.

 

[SGT. Slaughter]

This will be for 6 ARC semi out to 800+ yards. I'll be handloading for precision and want a FFP scope. Target use only. I like using the reticle more than dialing for distance.

Seems the Leup MK5 was a big deal for a while. I got a Athlon Ares BTG Gen 2 4.5-27 x 50 in the safe. I'd like to take a step (or two) up from that.

Suggestions needed. Thanx.

Arken ep 5 5x25x56 definitely for the money and has great glass.

 

[SKWERLZ]

so again stayin in CONTEXT...where are tt's high POWERED target scopes....( 25 is not high power)

It’s plenty for many unless you’re f class or BR.

If you need 50x look elsewhere but that doesn’t discredit TT scopes in the least, not many scopes have image quality reminiscent of higher end spotting scopes.