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what cartridge in a true heavygun br rifle ?

big and heavy ...compared to a lite 6 dasher or clone.... yes less than 25 is a good spot, looks like the 300 wm or 300 wsm is the winner . no 80 lb 6mm's for me, no 100 lb 375's either.
just 200-250 gr in a 30 cal in a 18-25 lb rifle.
Truly and honestly you ain't going to like what I got to say if you're not willing to go heavier and want to shoot a 30 caliber I personally don't think it'll work for you especially in a heavy gun shooting 10 shot groups.
 
no all you need to know is that SOME 6'S MISSED THE WIND CHANGE BIG TIME and the 30's stayed on target. again it is about a big heavy 30 for heavy gun PERIOD.
I dunno about your logic, if there are 85 percent 6mm and 15 percent 30’s it stands to reason there is more chance of a 6 getting blown off than a 30;)
I shot a 300 wsm this year btw as well as a 6 Bra, they all get blown around if you miss the wind calls.
 
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YOU MISSED THE POINT
it was not one or two
it was 4 or 5 in the one relay no 30 got blown off(as I recall)
its not science..it is WHY I want a 30
[ your logic, if there are 85 percent 6mm and 15 percent 30’s it stands to reason there is more chance of a 6 getting blown off than a 30;)
I shot a 300 wsm this year btw as well as a 6 Bra, they all get blown around if you miss the wind calls.[/QUOTE]
 
I dunno about your logic, if there are 85 percent 6mm and 15 percent 30’s it stands to reason there is more chance of a 6 getting blown off than a 30;)
I shot a 300 wsm this year btw as well as a 6 Bra, they all get blown around if you miss the wind calls.
At Williamsport the numbers are pretty even. I believe conditions has a lot to do with numbers. Matt
 
big and heavy ...compared to a lite 6 dasher or clone.... yes less than 25 is a good spot, looks like the 300 wm or 300 wsm is the winner . no 80 lb 6mm's for me, no 100 lb 375's either.
just 200-250 gr in a 30 cal in a 18-25 lb rifle.
If 18lb is ok, then why not go 17 and have option to shoot it in LG if wind is up early? I have a 17 lb 284 Shehane im playing with that I shoot free recoil no problem. Only problem is lack of good bullets.
 
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because I want to leave my shoulder where it is...lol.
I like the idea of CLASSES and really like the idea of having a gun in that class, not just pretending.
maybe a min limit so there truly are 2 classes.
If 18lb is ok, then why not go 17 and gave option to shoot it in LG if wind is up early? I have a 17 lb 284 Shehane im playing with that I shoot free recoil no problem. Only problem is lack of good bullets.
 
My opinion is that a lg will out shoot a true hg. Raw group size. Now, a hg has the advantage of allowing you to shoot a 300 wsm and it wont beat you up. Tracking and recoil is the advantage of a HG, make use of them.
I do not agree with this. We have lots of true heavy guns (50 to 100 pounds) and lots of 17 pound guns. The heavy guns always out shoot the light ones in the aggregates. Not just in WSM where the recoil is greater, but in Dashers also. I agree it is not a great amount, but usually at least an inch in a 10 match aggregate. Matt
 
didn't they just set some new records in heavy aggs with lite dashers/bra's?
I do not agree with this. We have lots of true heavy guns (50 to 100 pounds) and lots of 17 pound guns. The heavy guns always out shoot the light ones in the aggregates. Not just in WSM where the recoil is greater, but in Dashers also. I agree it is not a great amount, but usually at least an inch in a 10 match aggregate. Matt
 
I do not agree with this. We have lots of true heavy guns (50 to 100 pounds) and lots of 17 pound guns. The heavy guns always out shoot the light ones in the aggregates. Not just in WSM where the recoil is greater, but in Dashers also. I agree it is not a great amount, but usually at least an inch in a 10 match aggregate. Matt
Matt Im talking raw accuracy in good conditions. Heavies have advantages in a match relay, tracking and gun handling forgiveness for example. But a good lg will shoot 1"s when conditions allow.
 
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