what cartridge in a true heavygun br rifle ?

[dmoran]

...... But a good lg will shoot 1"s when conditions allow.

Are you referring to 10-shots (like Matt is referring to) or 5-shot targets?

Myself, for 10-shot targets feel my 54-lb 6Dasher has an advantage over my LT-Gun 6Dasher.
Consistently easier for me to control tracking do to more repeatable return to battery, is my reasoning.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

5 shots. But I have not seen anything shoot zeros with any consistency yet.

 

[dkhunt14]

didn't they just set some new records in heavy aggs with lite dashers/bra's?

Not at Williamsport. In fact the WSM pretty much dominated the top 10 in heavy aggs both score and group. Matt

 

[JFrank]

This one ?

 

[Keith Faller]

I’m pretty sure that was with a heavy gun Jim.
I think what he was referring to was Tom and David who set light gun aggs with light guns.

 

[WIB3]

Not at Williamsport. In fact the WSM pretty much dominated the top 10 in heavy aggs both score and group. Matt

You are not giving me any credit Matt.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I shot a 5.650" 10 match agg shooting with Williamsport, used my rb,rp LG. Multiple guys have shot smaller 10 match HG aggs here, also with LGs. I know Murtiff broke it as well, not sure what he used. Its smaller in the IBS too, also a LG. My 6 match was a 4.343", so far as I know, still not broken. With the tracking and gun handling advantages they have, they should be dominant. I just dont see it. I think the biggest reason to have one is to shoot a wsm. I prefer a bedded or glued action to a barrel block, I also believe a rifle has to be light enough to recoil. If I was going to build myself a HG it would be built like a LG just heavier.

 

[WIB3]

Ultimately is not the goal to shoot small groups and high scores. To my knowledge the the 10 shot goal to beat still stands at 2.815”. Aggregates are nice but I would rather have bragging rights to the World Record.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

To me aggs tell you more than a single group, but I guess thats debatable. The smallest 10 shot group was actually shot in LG by Jim Richards. 2.6" http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2014/04/best-10-shot-1000-yard-group-in-history-be-amazed/

 

[Roy H]

Agg tells you of shooter ability, knowledge, work ethic, group tells you of the day.

 

[Joe Salt]

Roy is right small group tells you of the day! The Agg. tells you the shooters ability. If you look at Williamsports records you will see Matt and Tom Have been at the top of there game for quite some time. And that is not luck. These guys have it together when it comes to 1000 yard shooting my money is on them. Oh and when it comes to any major matches like Nationals or W/O you will find them at the top. That is the reason I like being in the same relay with these guys, it tells you whether your up to snuff.

Joe Salt

 

[rsmithsr50]

the agg records are world records too ??

Ultimately is not the goal to shoot small groups and high scores. To my knowledge the the 10 shot goal to beat still stands at 2.815”. Aggregates are nice but I would rather have bragging rights to the World Record.

 

[Stan Taylor]

My opinion of a true heavy gun in thousand-yard benchrest is a 300 WSM or 300 Win Mag 300 boo boo or some variance of a 30 caliber unless you want to shoot a 6mm improved of sorts in a light gun fashion if you don't want to carry something heavy to the line.
Here's a true variant of a light - heavy gun in a 6mm of some variation not a 30 caliber.

 

[WIB3]

Here is a heavy gun. It is a Dasher and is capable of shooting 10 record rounds in 23 seconds. It finished second at Williamsport this past year in the 10 match aggregate for group. It was out of 1st by .0200”. First was an 300WSM.

 

[WIB3]

Here is another heavy gun that I acquired back in Aug. It is capable of shooting much faster. They both weigh in the 70lb range. This one has a break and does not leave the point of aim for 10 shots. The last time I shot it I never looked through the scope for all 10 shots. It shot a 100 with a 4.719” group. Find a caliber that you feel comfortable with and stay with it. There are certain cartridges that just shoot better than others. Take time to carefully do your homework and enjoy the sport.

 

[WIB3]

P.S. also a Dasher.

 

[BenPerfected]

Not at Williamsport. In fact the WSM pretty much dominated the top 10 in heavy aggs both score and group. Matt

Hi Matt, I just might just have to come back to Williamsport for another lesson. When is the next WP teaching/training school?
Sprague (Ben)

 

[dkhunt14]

You are not giving me any credit Matt.

Read the words Pretty Much. That doesn't mean all. I would never not give you credit. You had a stellar year. Conrats. Matt

 

[dkhunt14]

Hi Matt, I just might just have to come back to Williamsport for another lesson. When is the next WP teaching/training school?
Sprague (Ben)

I am not sure if they set the date yet. Usually ends up in April or May. It will get posted in here when it gets closer. Matt