What boring bar

[Hal]

For those of you that drill and bore before you chamber, what boring bar do you use?
Some of the chambers are small, like .223 size.

Thanks
Hal

 

[LVLAaron]

For a 223 chamber I use this tiny Accupro boring bar:

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/05253000

For all of the other "detail" work, crowns, larger chambers, bolt nose recesses, I love these tiny boring bars that take CCGT style polished inserts.

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[BuffaloBill]

I bought one of these a couple months ago. I’ve only pre-bored one Creedmoor chamber with it but it cut nicely. What drew me to this one, other than the low cost, was the 3” length. To bore the 4-port brakes I needed a bit more reach.

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[WSnyder]

Circle/Widia. I’ve been using these ever since Mike Bryant discovered them. For even smaller stuff like a PPC (or your 223) I use Micro 100 tooling.

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[gme]

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/86038049

 

[shortgrass]

I stumbled on to a Kennametal 3/16" carbide bar on e-bay,,,,,,, brand new, still in its original packaging. I think I paid $75 for it. It retails from MSC for over $400. Inserts are kinda' pricey, though

 

[LVLAaron]

Even cheap polished inserts made for aluminum cut SUPER well in stainless. I get cheap packs of

CCGT 21.51 inserts and they'll last a super long time if you take 10 thou cuts​

 

[Gabe22BR]

Can’t go wrong with a insert type.. depending on how much your going to use it,…

 

[LVLAaron]

You can get an carbide boring bar and a pack of inserts for the cost of 1 good carbide single point tool. My two cents.

 

[WSnyder]

This is especially true on lathes that do not have enough speed/power to use carbide properly.

Another old wives tale. There are plenty of modern carbide inserts and tooling with configurations that flat work on manual machines. Way too many of us have been doing it successfully for far too long now to keep this up. I have inserted tooling that'll take skim cuts in the tenths leaving beautiful finishes on my 13" Rockwell without high speeds or power.

 

[LVLAaron]

IMO you're better off using HSS rather than carbide to do chamber work. This is especially true on lathes that do not have enough speed/power to use carbide properly. This is rather complicated in regard to the rake angle, but carbide in general prefers fast speeds and more often than not you want to cut your chamber at slow speeds, so HSS is desirable for that. You could grind a tool bit blank to form a small boring bar, those work fine. You can also get HSS inserts from Arthur Warner as Bob Pastor has long recommended (Maker of Viper's Venum cutting oil). Not a bad option if you don't know how to grind a tool bit:

https://www.arwarnerco.com/

If you are asking about what boring bar to use, I have to guess you're not very competent with a lathe, so whatever you do, take your time and most of all be safe. In the case of chambering where you're basically sneaking up on your dimension from .001"-.003" at a pass, that is not enough for carbide to cut cleanly and carbide needs to turn fast in order to leave a clean finish. There are so many factors involved here I just can't over emphasize to be safe no matter what you do.

That's why I mentioned using "GT" style polished inserts. They are sharp as a cats claw and provide a beautiful finish. They cut easier than HSS.

 

[tobnpr]

I use the Micro 100 boring bars and this:

0.314" Min Bore 95 degree 1/2" Shank Indexable Mini Boring Bar

www.shars.com

The little solid carbide ones snap very easily, light cuts and I don't even think about using them on interrupted cuts.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I use carbide exclusively and have for 20+ yrs as has pretty much every successful gunsmith has. Kennametal, iscar, pretty much all the toolmakers have inserts made for our type work

 

[std7mag]

I work with 4140 quite a lot at work. We use Kennametal tools with carbide inserts.
Even, or because of, the feeds & speeds we use, we go through a fair number of inserts. Even with coolant.
Not sure how HSS would hold up against it.

 

[shortgrass]

HS tools are OK, as long as you slow down to what they can handle. When I first started machining, in 1974, that's what we had, HS tooling. If you had a tool bit that had brazed carbide you really had something!! Inserts hadn't been thought of , yet...... HS runs at 100SFM (round number there), none of this 450SFM+ we run now with good carbide inserts. And, as mentioned above, there's an insert made for any imaginable material you can cut. Tool making from a HS blank is just for us "old men".

 

[shortgrass]

I work with 4140 quite a lot at work. We use Kennametal tools with carbide inserts.
Even, or because of, the feeds & speeds we use, we go through a fair number of inserts. Even with coolant.
Not sure how HSS would hold up against it.

Believe it or not, there was machining before carbide inserts. We cut all kinds of steels with HS , because that's what we had. You had to actually know something about tool geometry, it wasn't as simple as removing a worn insert and putting a new edge to the work. Tough to cut alloys have been around for a long time.

 

[BORGY76]

Micro 100, kenemetal, seco, inserted bars i like cbn most of the time. I don't get to do much turning anymore. Wire edm's consume most of my life lstely.

 

[Hal]

Thanks for the reply.
The boring bars that I have are to big.

Hal

 

[spitfire_er]

I use small solid carbide boring bars similar to shown above. You are usually only taking a few light cuts with them for this purpose.

 

[AckleymanII]

I have been using the Widea/Circle C, 3/16 & 1/4" solid carbide boring bars, 6" with FCBI and CCBI inserts for a long time.

Use high quality inserts, they are worth it in the long run.