Ever so lightly neck/shoulder every 3-4th case, same applies to the case it’s self.When using Imperial sizing wax, do you do the body only, or include the neck? Mr. Miyagi thanks you for your answers. View attachment 1704111
I use Imperial Sizing Die Wax and like Fire Dog, I'll put just a very light amount on the neck once every few cases. I avoid putting any on the shoulders, but since I use Forster FL sizing dies that have vent holes, I really don't worry about getting some of the lube on them. I takes very little of this wax to get enough lubrication and often I don't even have to lube but every other case. Cases all come out very consistent (though my annealing process helps a lot with thatWhen using Imperial sizing wax, do you do the body only, or include the neck? Mr. Miyagi thanks you for your answers. View attachment 1704111
lots of people say dont use it on the neck. to me the neck is getting sized so i want it lubed a little. its true some lube gets pushed up from the body into the neck. i usually lube the body and a little on neck with imperial for my accuracy loads. i never get case dents so i figure there not getting lubed to much. sometimes i use the graphite neck lube. it works ok. gonna try the outlaw formula on my accuracy loads soon and it will lube the whole case.When using Imperial sizing wax, do you do the body only, or include the neck? Mr. Miyagi thanks you for your answers. View attachment 1704111
Body only, otherwise it will build up off the neck and dent the shouldersWhen using Imperial sizing wax, do you do the body only, or include the neck? Mr. Miyagi thanks you for your answers. View attachment 1704111
As long as you don't go crazy with it, it's not a problem to lube the whole case. I've done tens of thousands of cases this way and the only time i had an issue was early on when I put too much lube on the case. To say you shouldn't lube the neck and shoulder is simply wrong. While the shoulder doesn't NEED lube, I'm not going to spend the time and effort to wipe it off. Don't apply it like a gorilla and you will be fine.I've been applying Imperial Sizing Die wax on case body and neck with my fingers. I've never had a problem doing it this way.
The neck is the most heavily sized part of the case, why wouldn't you lube it? It cannot hurt even if it's not needed. It might prevent brass galling and adhering to the die.When using Imperial sizing wax, do you do the body only, or include the neck? Mr. Miyagi thanks you for your answers. View attachment 1704111
True that,As long as you don't go crazy with it, it's not a problem to lube the whole case. I've done tens of thousands of cases this way and the only time i had an issue was early on when I put too much lube on the case. To say you shouldn't lube the neck and shoulder is simply wrong. While the shoulder doesn't NEED lube, I'm not going to spend the time and effort to wipe it off. Don't apply it like a gorilla and you will be fine.
I do similar. I dip necks in moly beads and then wipe off outside with corner of microfiber in my lap. Then I hold case by neck and lube the case body, then wipe off case after sizing with the same towel.Only thing I've ever changed over the years is the lube on the body, went from RCBS to Imp wax. All the necks got dipped in motor mica over a Forster dry lube neck brush kit. I try to avoid going up onto the shoulder with the body lube, the dry lube takes care of the neck inside and out. With and without dry lube is like night and day when using the button expander that is std in most dies, works fine with neck dies and neck bushing dies, mandrels, no fear of contaminating powder, no fear of over lubing and no fuss, no muss on inside neck lubing. Don't even have to do all of them, very often one dip lasts 3-4 cases, you can feel/hear when it’s time.
That has been my experience as well, with 223. I forget how, exactly, I discovered this, but I think it's because I was using a RCBS Precision Mic (or maybe some other tool, I forget TBH, it's been a few years since I handloaded for 223) to check how far my shoulders were getting bumped, and sometimes they were getting bumped back further than others when everything should have been the same (same number of firings on the cases, all cases annealed, nothing changed except possibly the quantity of wax building up and denting/moving the shoulders)...I could check my lab notebook but I'm too lazy right now to go retrieve it.Body only, otherwise it will build up off the neck and dent the shoulders