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On beam scales part two

sparker said:
I have not tried the dump and run method of late. It is certainly worth revisiting. I use the Lee and recommend it to everyone needing a powder thrower. In going from one scale to two, I have not seen an increase in SD on the chronograph. My load time however has certainly gotten shorter.
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I more often load small batches of 20-50. My ES's are max 10 but more than powder determines that.. What I like is how fast I can set up with one scale and get it finished with. I have my scale leveled on its spot on my bench and corners outlined with a sharpie. So I just set it up there and set the bails to my charge and check weigh. If I am using same charge then dont have to do anything to scale as it will hold 'zero'. I am probably 1/10th off of zero empty but makes no diff as not weighing air. Quick and easy. I could have 20 loaded up before an equally reliable electronic had warmed up to use!
I have turned many friends on to the Lee's and always recommend buy two. They dont all come out 'perfect'. I have a thumb screw to attach stand to the communal base, so I just swap out my throwers for diff cartridge preset loads.
 
Tesoro said:
I more often load small batches of 20-50. My ES's are max 10 but more than powder determines that.. What I like is how fast I can set up with one scale and get it finished with. I have my scale leveled on its spot on my bench and corners outlined with a sharpie. So I just set it up there and set the bails to my charge and check weigh. If I am using same charge then dont have to do anything to scale as it will hold 'zero'. I am probably 1/10th off of zero empty but makes no diff as not weighing air. Quick and easy. I could have 20 loaded up before an equally reliable electronic had warmed up to use!
I have turned many friends on to the Lee's and always recommend buy two. They dont all come out 'perfect'. I have a thumb screw to attach stand to the communal base, so I just swap out my throwers for diff cartridge preset loads.
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That’s a great idea to have a couple of throwers. If I was loading for more than one cartridge, I’d do that.
 
gotcha said:
Hi Scott! I've been wanting one of your tuned scales for a long time. Since my 3 poise 505 doesn't qualify can you provide a list of scales you feel are worthy of tuning? This would be for those of us that might be shopping gun shows etc. Please include mfg. name & model #. Thanks for your input, Dale
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Scott tuned my Redding. It's spot on.
 
I have a Parker tuned Redding #1. I use it to keep my electronic scale in check. I am a newbie but this gives me piece of mind!
 
Bc'z said:
@sparker I appreciate the call and conversation we had yesterday morning.
You mentioned 20 weight oil in the Redding #1
Couple questions
Standard 20 weight, or high milage due to age of scale?
Do I need to change oil every 3 months or 3000 rounds?
Serious questions with a lil humor injected.
Thanks you sir
No I haven't opened it up yet
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Your milage my vary...........hahahahahaha....sorry Bro couldnt help my self. Carry on.
 
sparker said:
That’s a great idea to have a couple of throwers. If I was loading for more than one cartridge, I’d do that.
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I was going to mention that in my experience those Lees do not throw well at all if the canister is used as the hopper. Who knows why but a shame. I only get aaa results using the little hopper. I have tried it on 3 different throwers and same results. Have you noticed this?

Also I gave up using an external camera and computer. Much simpler to just use a phone!
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I use a magnifying lens. I vibrate the hopper for a good bit after filling. This along with the baffle allows for a much tighter spread of thrown charges. I’ve not used a canister as the powder reservoir. It seems that the next direction to go with regard to hoppers is the opening size to the fill tube. I imagine that a smaller opening allows for a more compact/settled charge volume and should be more repeatable. Too small and bridging becomes a problem.
 
sparker said:
I use a magnifying lens. I vibrate the hopper for a good bit after filling. This along with the baffle allows for a much tighter spread of thrown charges. I’ve not used a canister as the powder reservoir. It seems that the next direction to go with regard to hoppers is the opening size to the fill tube. I imagine that a smaller opening allows for a more compact/settled charge volume and should be more repeatable. Too small and bridging becomes a problem.
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I dont know if I just lucked out on my 4 but they work so well that I dont want to tweak anything. I assume you made your baffle?
 
The rabbit hole is a very dangerous place. Been thinking about making a two poise conventional scale even more sensitive. A longer beam would make it more sensitive. This would entail a weight on the left side of the knife fulcrum. Some of the older scales I think had a longer beam. And some of these had two nuts for fine tuning, or at least I think that is what they are for. A spring on the left side underneath the pointer speeds up the process quite a bit.
 
Infrequent Shooter said:
The rabbit hole is a very dangerous place. Been thinking about making a two poise conventional scale even more sensitive. A longer beam would make it more sensitive. This would entail a weight on the left side of the knife fulcrum. Some of the older scales I think had a longer beam. And some of these had two nuts for fine tuning, or at least I think that is what they are for. A spring on the left side underneath the pointer speeds up the process quite a bit.
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Something like this maybe:
 
1066 said:
Not going to bounce a laser beam off the beam onto the wall are you Scott?
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Alan, it’s as if you’re inside my head. Although it is just as an exercise to see it work. It really isn’t necessary. We can already measure to a kernel. Anything smaller than that will be superfluous.
 
sparker said:
Alan, it’s as if you’re inside my head. Although it is just as an exercise to see it work. It really isn’t necessary. We can already measure to a kernel. Anything smaller than that will be superfluous.
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:D I find a moment length of about four feet gives deflection of about half an inch for a single kernel of Varget.

However a single kernel of Varget is quite visible with a good M5 and a camera - I'm certainly not cutting any kernels to try and get any closer.
 
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