NRA Rule Changes...Boards for bipod

[broncman]

This keeps coming up so here is the link. I cant cut and paste from a pdf on my phone, but go to the highpower link for the new changes.

Basically, 24"x12"x1/2" board under bipod, front rear rest still seperate I.E. no table.

http://competitions.nra.org/rule-changes.aspx

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

And with carpet, does it have to still be under 1/2 ?

 

[broncman]

I kept mine 1/2" or under...makes for a thin board, but it works well.

Time will tell. I made two, one total thickness of 1/2" and one with 1/2" board and carpet mat..

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

Smart man, I'm thinking about doing the same thing. Just in case.

 

[kelbro]

Or you could use a 1/2" board and put the carpet on the feet of the bipod to be sure you were in compliance.

 

[ryanjay11]

What type of carpet are you guys using? I have been using a loose pile bathroom mat that is pretty close to 1/2" thick by itself.

I avoided a board last year because my Centershot made it impossible to follow the rule since it is different widths when raised and lowered. I am glad to see that this rule was changed to take this into account, but it is still a little vague. I would venture to guess the board is the only thing that needs to be 1/2" and we are over thinking it.

 

[broncman]

I have one with a closed loop doormat short nap, and one with a cork rubber. They both work well compared to plain board. Plain board was like ice...

 

[chuckbuster243]

I emailed the NRA for clarification on this rule... We ran into some issues at a match I last attended.. everyone still acts like it still cannot exceed 2" outside the rest. As I read it the board can be 24x12x1/2 no matter how big the bipod is... legs out, in, up whatever... And any other supports ie rear bag support cannot be larger than 2" outside... Is this how you read it? Matt

 

[broncman]

Yes. It plainly states seperate rests, but "in case of bipod" then gives dimensions.

I can see how it could be read the other way. Heck, as cheap as they are to make, a 24", 20", 18" etc for an assortment. Could easily keep track of width once one shoots at at certain venue

 

[TonyR]

(b) F-Class Target Rifle (F-T/R) Rests - A bipod and/or sling are the only allowed front supports for the F-T/R
rifle. The rifle may be supported by a bipod and/or sling and a rear support which provide no positive
mechanical method for returning it to its precise point of aim for the prior shot. Subject to:
(1) The bipod and/or sling and rear support may not be attached to each other.
(2) The use of any form of a table is prohibited. Separate flat boards or plates not exceeding the dimensions
of the individual rests by two inches are allowed to be placed under the front and/or rear rests. In the
case of a bipod, the board may not exceed the width of 24” nor depth of 12” and thickness of 1/2”.


Interesting question. It could be interpreted to mean that the board cannot exceed 24 inches wide but that the 2 inch rule still applies. I guess the F-T/R Team captain is still in South Africa. Maybe he could weigh in on this when he gets back.

 

[chuckbuster243]

Yes. It plainly states seperate rests, but "in case of bipod" then gives dimensions.

I can see how it could be read the other way. Heck, as cheap as they are to make, a 24", 20", 18" etc for an assortment. Could easily keep track of width once one shoots at at certain venue

This is how I pictured it, but some people still dont agree. I want it in writing then I can just pull it out next match. Then no argument.

 

[gme]

So if I choose to fire my BRX from a bipod (open class) does this rule apply?

 

[memilanuk]

Gary,

No, you'd fall under 3.4.1(a), F-Open rest rules.

 

[memilanuk]

Heck, as cheap as they are to make, a 24", 20", 18" etc for an assortment. Could easily keep track of width once one shoots at at certain venue

Except that you'd have to keep them *all* with you, as you might need a different width depending on which yard line you're on... or if like one event I shoot at up @ Chilliwack BC, you move *over* two firing points as you move back as well. One time you might be on a hump, next time you're in a hole.

 

[broncman]

I can see that at places. I am going to measure bipod width on the ranges I shoot, ORSA and Butner. My board is only 6" wide so it is not hard to keep 2 in my gear. I believe 4" difference between the two and maybe a board under my rear bag will give me anything I need.

 

[Taildrag15X]

I like the fact they addressed an issue, but what happened is limiting the width of bi pods to 22".........

 

[TonyR]

Gary,

No, you'd fall under 3.4.1(a), F-Open rest rules.

But there is also a 2 inch rule in the F-Open rest rules as well. So I think there would be the same issue with scissor bipods.

 

[memilanuk]

There's always the other option... don't use a board.

Get some of those flexible plastic cutting 'sheets' from the grocery store, or a car floor mat (with carpet). Then there are no size restrictions, as its not a 'board' or a 'plate' because it can be rolled or folded up, as per the NRA Referee @ the 2010 FCNC in Sacramento (last time someone made a big deal out of this). With the wider bipods you might need to take some velcro dots and fasten two of the cutting sheets together to make it wide enough - I've done exactly that and it works fine.

 

[chuckbuster243]

There's always the other option... don't use a board.

Then there are no size restrictions, as its not a 'board' or a 'plate' because it can be rolled or folded up, as per the NRA Referee @ the 2010 FCNC in Sacramento (last time someone made a big deal out of this).

Where can I find this in writing???? I think this would solve several problems. There were some harris bipod shooters that were instructed at the match I attended that that they could not put the bipod on the mat or tuck it under the flaps. Saying it was larger than the 2" rule.... I think it was Brad Save that promotes this technique. Works well I may add. Matt

 

[Taildrag15X]

There's always the other option... don't use a board.

Then there are no size restrictions, as its not a 'board' or a 'plate' because it can be rolled or folded up, as per the NRA Referee @ the 2010 FCNC in Sacramento (last time someone made a big deal out of this).

Where can I find this in writing???? I think this would solve several problems. There were some harris bipod shooters that were instructed at the match I attended that that they could not put the bipod on the mat or tuck it under the flaps. Saying it was larger than the 2" rule.... I think it was Brad Save that promotes this technique. Works well I may add. Matt

I think Monte referenced the 2010 US F-class Championships that were held at Folsum, CA.....

I can see where "tucking them under the flap" was deemed a no-no, just as digging the ground out for the feet to set in which I've seen.

I'm not sure now that they have addressed this, do they want to keep bi pods under 22" or were they trying to stop the "tracked" carpet padded boards that were being used.