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2020 NRA F-Class National Championship MATCH DIRECTOR’S BULLETIN #1

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Seems like it would make more sense to explicitly allow the use of 3/4 inch carpet. It's cheap, anyone can get a piece for free so it isn't like new shooters or shooters with a budget don't have access to it. Or are we seeing too many TR guys out scoring Open guys? :D
 
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Seems like it would make more sense to explicitly allow the use of 3/4 inch carpet. It's cheap, anyone can get a piece for free so it isn't like new shooters or shooters with a budget don't have access to it. Or are we seeing too many TR guys out scoring Open guys? :D
I don't think the carpet or the type of bypod is the reason some ftr guys shoot better scores than some of the f open guys.
 
Seems like it would make more sense to explicitly allow the use of 3/4 inch carpet. It's cheap, anyone can get a piece for free so it isn't like new shooters or shooters with a budget don't have access to it. Or are we seeing too many TR guys out scoring Open guys? :D
I don't think the carpet or the type of bypod is the reason some ftr guys shoot better scores than some of the f open guys.
 
I was around shooting sling Palma when F-class was introduced, if anyone can say that the spirit of the game hasn’t been prostituted, then just look at the rigs you see on the line today. The pox on all of us.
 
I was around shooting sling Palma when F-class was introduced, if anyone can say that the spirit of the game hasn’t been prostituted, then just look at the rigs you see on the line today. The pox on all of us.


You’re right on that Fclass was supposed to be a modification of prone high power not benchrest from the ground, like Open has gravitated to. All the ranges are evidence of a different, tougher game. Those giant number boards sometimes aren’t even visible in our 60 X telescopes. 6x6 foot frames and carriers seem unnecessarily large and spread out for Fclass, which has more takers than even Ben Avery can accommodate.

The one major change I have wished for over the years is the structuring of matches so that a shooter can enter Both Open and TR.
 
The rigs seen on the line today are a progression in the shooting sports over decades of advancement in our entire society . I'm sure there are some out there who would rather we all still shot a breech-loader over a whiskey barrel , but those days are gone . I absolutely admire those who can still shoot "Sling" , but I'm not one of them , for a whole book-full of reasons . Current F-TR rules do how-ever allow me to continue shooting and all this flap over some "interpreting" a rule , and then trying to stretch it to the maximum allowable before being called out on it is , to me personally , amusing ....Amusing ; in that my very first board was made after I read the , then current , and still standing rules regarding front boards . Piece of 3/4" plywood , covered with 1/8" thick indoor/outdoor carpet . Done ....And "LEGAL" , according to the Rules , and the new Directive . Again I ask ? What is so freakin complicated , and why all the semantics , whinin and Bitchin ? It's done ! The Directive has been announced , and it will be in place for the Match . So ...As the "Eagles" said in one of their last songs , "Get Over IT" ! This horse died and it's time to bury it and move on .
 
I was around shooting sling Palma when F-class was introduced, if anyone can say that the spirit of the game hasn’t been prostituted, then just look at the rigs you see on the line today. The pox on all of us.

WWT.

I completely disagree.

I first started shooting Fullbore at Connaught Ranges in Canada back in 1981 (holy crap, that's almost 40 years ago.) In those days the range issued us the ammo, 147gr .308 NATO made by C-I-L. (Canadian Industries Limited, IIRC.) I had (and still have) a Carl Gustav Mauser 96 with a 30 inch barrel and Parker Hale peep sights front and rear. I still have the little bottle that contains the various front apertures to match the aiming black with the distance. We shot from 300 meters back to 900 meters, two to a mound. Sometimes three for big matches.

The issue ammo was junk, 10+ years old even then. After we passed the 600 meter line, keyholing on target was increasingly common. I have never seen so many keyholes outside of Lowes door hardware section.

The scores were "variable," to say the least. For those of us who went to the 2017 Worlds in Connaught and those who go to shoot the Canadian Nationals and other events there; you have probably noticed the wide spacing between the targets on the line. That was the first thing that struck me when I returned there after a 35 year absence. During the time I was shooting there, the target boards were 12 feet wide. It took two people to maneuver these mothers. Bull, Inner, Magpie Outer, Hit, Miss. Yep, even at 12 feet wide you could miss the target with that ammo. It usually came up short and I remember getting pelted by rocks and dirt from the safety berm. A lot.

Yes, we have moved on from then and the targets are much smaller now, as the rifles got a lot more precise. The person who got the F-class thing started was George Farquharson, a competitor from British Columbia who shot Fullbore in Canada. It is entirely possible that he was there when I shot in the Canadian Nationals in '81-'83 (or was it '84?). I haven't the slightest recollection of anyone there at the time except for one guy with whom I shot a couple of matches. He was REALLY good and he was French-Canadian so we had some great conversations. He would be quite old now.

George wanted to continue shooting with his buddies but he could no longer hold his rifle, even in a sling and coat and his eyesight was failing. He petitioned the DCRA to let him continue shooting, using a bipod and a scope. Pretty much F-TR. The DCRA agreed and the rest is history. I haven't the slightest problem with F-Open being so distant from the original F-class. I'm an F-TR guy and will remain F-TR.

I know people like to idolize competitors and shooters of yore. We should never forget those great shooters, but that doesn't mean we can't also have equal respect for the great shooters of today, as long as we match them to the proper targets. I can only imagine the scores using my old CG M-96 with C-I-L .308 (miss)Match ammo on an F-class target. :eek:
 
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It took two people to maneuver these mothers. Bull, InnerMagpie Outer, Hit, Miss. Yep, even at 12 feet wide you could miss the target with that ammo. It usually came up short and I remember getting pelted by rocks and dirt from the safety berm. A lot.

Goodness :), when I was there first time in 2007 with Palma rifle, cute lil' gurls were pullin' our target, an'ed flurt with you in the mess hall!:oops::oops::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dan
 
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Goodness :), when I was there first time in 2007 with Palma rifle, cute lil' gurls were pullin' our target, an'ed flurt with you in the mess hall!:oops::oops::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dan

I don’t know when they started getting the young ladies from that school to come pull the targets, but I would guess it was after they shrank the targets from 12 feet to 6 feet wide.

Oh and we had to walk through waist-high snow to get to the pits. Uphill both ways, of course.
 
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