New RCBS scale coming at some point

[cw308]

I'll stick with my CM1500 and fine tune with my GemPro250 . I saw a Gem20 that works to the .01 for $ 30.00 .More then one way to skin a cat .

 

[Papa Charlie]

I hope that the new RCBS scales is what they claim.

But just because they apply a tolerance to them doesn't mean they will perform. I can buy a supposed lab grade scale from a Chinese manufacturer, doesn't mean that it will perform the same as the AND or the Sartorius. You get what you pay for.

 

[F Class John]

I just saw confirmation that this will be using “a high quality strain gauge load cell”.

 

[Prose]

I just saw confirmation that this will be using “a high quality strain gauge load cell”.

Where’d you see that?

 

[F Class John]

Where’d you see that?

 

[Papa Charlie]

Well that is a whole set of problems. I would take a mag any day over a strain gauge.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Well that is a whole set of problems. I would take a mag any day over a strain gauge.

And most wouldnt be able to shoot the difference on the powder charges weighed between the two types of scales if there was any difference at all.

If there was a change in accuracy with a miniscule difference in charge weight, then the rifle is WAY out of tune

 

[Papa Charlie]

And most wouldnt be able to shoot the difference on the powder charges weighed between the two types of scales if there was any difference at all.

If there was a change in accuracy with a miniscule difference in charge weight, then the rifle is WAY out of tune

Its not the difference when they are set up, it is the number of things that can cause them to drift. Strain gauges are very sensitive to environmental and electrical. Strain are also prone to drift as they are constantly comparing one reading against the last.

They just take a lot more attention to hold and produce constant readings.

 

[F Class John]

I think it also falls under the “for the price it should be...” situation. For an MSRP of $900 (but obviously less in the real when when it’s released) you would expect a mag scale and not a strain. maybe I’m alone on this but any dispenser or scale over the $500ish mark is usually expected to be a mag scale. Will their new scale still work great, probably but like @Papa Charlie said it just needs more babysitting and will always have a degree of what ifs associated with it compared to a mag scale. That’s all.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I would guess they are importing them for about $80 cost. The cost on the 1500 is about 60 bucks.

 

[Lefty Trigger]

When I first seen this I was thinking a new "standalone" scale but after going back over the original picture and now the vid it is clearly a new version Chargemaster. I'm using the Chargemaster lite along with my FX120i scale and it's working great. RCBS better invested in decent internals or it's just another scale!
And why Bluetooth? I don't need to make calls from my reloading scale??

 

[Shinbone]

Looking forward to hearing real-world reviews on this new scale. It is nice that the entire weighing/powder dispensing system is all in a single unit with a relatively small footprint.

 

[fatelvis]

I’ll stick with my CM1500. I don’t think my shooting is up to the accuracy potential of anything more precise, at the moment. I may be oversimplifying here, but isn’t the CM1500 just fine for anyone shooting under 1K yards? I don’t know if I’ll EVER have the opportunity to shoot at 1k or beyond. (Sad to say) lol

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I just saw confirmation that this will be using “a high quality strain gauge load cell”.

Oh well, so much for that. An MFR balance would have made the unit quite interesting, but the price would have been over $1k.

Thankfully, the V3-outfitted FX-120 works extremely well.

 

[F Class John]

For those interested. Here’s their website that has now been updated. Looks like we get the new unit in November.

https://www.rcbs.com/matchmaster-powder-dispenser.html

 

[Lefty Trigger]

Looks good but will it be an affordable option or just another overpriced dispenser? I never would have though I would spend close to $800 for a FX120 either but I did and reflecting back I kinda wish I had not. The expensive scale is the cats ass for weighing powder but it produces ammo way above my shooting ability so even though I get way better numbers for the loaded rounds I'm not seeing any "huge" noticeable difference on paper more so than my trusty beam scale. Money could/should have been used for other things to help me be a better shooter... hindsight.

 

[Papa Charlie]

The unit is nice, I just don't think it will make it with the competitors in many venues.

 

[corsair4360]

For the incremental accuracy over the current RCBS electronic scale I have, the price point is big nearly a two times increase in price for somewhat more accuracy. My RCBS old unit does hold to 0.1 reasonably well but I have customized it many modifications.

Sure I spend lots of reloading, supplies, rifles, etc but what I have works well.

I bought a chinese scale that supposedly reads to 0.01" but it is so fickle, slow and irritating to use I have it on the shelf awaiting disposal

 

[Straightshooter1]

Guess, I'll just have to wait and see what other's experiences are with this.

The Bluetooth feature isn't very compelling to me. And they state on the RCBS wetsite: "Utilizing our Patent Pending dual tube dispense technology most charges can be thrown in under 20 seconds to 0.10 grain accuracy" . . . isn't all that compelling to me either, especially at that price point. On the positive side, the .04 grain accuracy in "Match Mode" sounds real good and that second tube (the trickling tube) probably helps a lot with that (don't have to have a separate trickler to get the accuracy).

https://www.rcbs.com/matchmaster-powder-dispenser.html

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Its not the difference when they are set up, it is the number of things that can cause them to drift. Strain gauges are very sensitive to environmental and electrical. Strain are also prone to drift as they are constantly comparing one reading against the last.

They just take a lot more attention to hold and produce constant readings.

My FX120i drifts off zero a heck of a lot more than my RCBS CM's or GemPro 250. Leave them on pretty much all the time. Whenever one of the scales is off zero, it always seems to be the FX120i... The GemPro will every once in a great while, but not nearly as much as the FX120i. Have to watch the FX really close.

My CMs never drift, not even on first staring them up. Can have them off for days, turn them on and never have to re-zero.