New Long Range Shot

[hogpatrol]

Probably would be accepted more if there was a successive hit within the general area. The article didn't say if they kept shooting and if they did, how many more shots before another hit. Other than that, is this a great country or what?

 

[outasite`08]

Like I said I'm done. You obviously have a hard time reading the first two lines of my first post. Good luck and have a good day!

Didn`t we go thru this BS awhile back about another long shot. This shot was like any other long shot. it takes time and effort. You don`t have to be impressed, but you should at least acknowledge the effort. Like when I was a kid shooting at a can with my BB gun. Kept moving back until it was almost impossible to hit and then shooting the rest of my BB`s until that one good hit. It`s about what YOU want to do. Jeff

 

[hogpatrol]

 

[Medic505]

Like I said I'm done

Are you really done or just semi done?

 

[NomadRifleman]

It ain't about me or how pathetic my marksmanship is...but 1 hit in 69 shots is not impressive, but ya finally got lucky, and the wind probably helped ya out, situation....no matter the range, ...How many shots are acceptable to connect one time with one target 500rds, or a thousand? ...Every day for 20 years, hoping, some day you will get lucky and be successful?
Unimpressive to me without followup hits and a much lesser round count down range. They should keep practicing...and I encourage that. Your opinion may differ....but for now, the money spent helps the economy and keeps some folks entertained...so there's that... and that's a good thing.

 

[outasite`08]

Reply quickly. This looks like a lock coming. " Can`t we just all get along?" Jeff

 

[NomadRifleman]

I do agree with you in as, it was a hell of a shot. 4+ freaking miles. That's a long way.
The issue is, how many shots, and the practicality of it.
It's a great accomplishment in the ELR field.
This forum deals with more of a precision based ideology, not lets shoot
as many times until we hit the target once.

My video response.

 

[NomadRifleman]

Reply quickly. This looks like a lock coming. " Can`t we just all get along?" Jeff

I apologize for any pain or suffering that our shot caused. It probably won't happen again. (Primarily because we are not very good). ;-) Keep the fun comments coming ya'll, I am snacking on a tofu-infused brussel sprout soy milk latte and can handle folks pointing out that the shot was nothing special. Sniffle... lol

 

[NomadRifleman]

Well I'm glad I'm able to have my own opinion even though it's wrong. I'm still waiting for the number of shots to kill the second dog past 1000.

This goes back 15 years when we were doing the same thing at 3000+ yards. Others could not do it or would not try it so there for no one could do it. Anything we did was wrong and all the keyboard shooters were right for whatever reason. I got tired of defending our actions then and I'm done defending these guys actions now from some people that just don't have a clue.

I think shooting is fun. I am not good at it, but it is fun. I hope everyone enjoys the style that is fun for them. Thanks for your 3,000 yard work, without trailblazers, we would not have had our success, and the awesome folks who top us in a week or year will hopefully be grateful for all of the folks who have had this unique interest.

 

[NomadRifleman]

Whats 1 MOA at 4.4 miles?

I was just doing that math yesterday, I took the size in inches that a moa is at 100 yards (1.047) and multiplied it times how many HUNDREDS of yards this shot was (77.44). I arrived at 81.07968, so basically 81".

The orange circle in the middle was equivalent to less than 1/8 inch at 100 yards. Yes, we wanted to hit the orange circle, but I predict that with even 500 more shots, we might hit the huge 1.6 MOA target 5 to 10 times, but the chances of the orange circle? Not very good.

More info on the shot here: https://nomadrifleman.com/world-record-shot/

 

[NomadRifleman]

I not one to judge, but anyone can post rules that say “they shoulda done it this way”. But to put a limit on whatever methods anyone used to accomplish a goal is just sayin you don’t agree with there accomplishments. So what. Move on. No military sniper that took 1.5+ mile shots hit on cold bore first shot. They walked the bullet in. (Read those articles) From experience, this is my purpose build 2 mile+ setup from 2009-2010 for PRAIRIE DOGS…. Yep it’s 71lbs. Yep it’s a converted bench gun. Yep I built the custom adjustable scope mounts. I made the 500,1000,1500 and 2k club in varmit hunter downrange club. NOPE, I ain’t carrying it very far. We didn’t kill a prairie dog over 2 miles, but it’d hold a 5’-6’ group at 3,640 yards. So yea, there is some luck with hit any target at EXTREME distances. But don’t bash on someone’s accomplishments if you don’t agree. Oh, and jghoghunter that posted earlier in the thread, that’s his purpose built 2 mile gun in the background. The green gun. Just my 2cents View attachment 1370165

Very well said. Thank you sir.

 

[outasite`08]

I apologize for any pain or suffering that our shot caused. It probably won't happen again. (Primarily because we are not very good). ;-) Keep the fun comments coming ya'll, I am snacking on a tofu-infused brussel sprout soy milk latte and can handle folks pointing out that the shot was nothing special. Sniffle... lol

Drive on Nomad. I shoot to suite ME, as you guys are doing. It`s a shame we can`t share without some BS about our activity. Enjoy life. Over and out, Jeff

 

[NomadRifleman]

I had the same thought.
I guess a question would be, after they are sighted in, how many hits out of, say, 10 do they make?

I also noted they have spotters down range.

I suspect that if we had taken 10 more shots, none would have hit the target. I am guessing that in the same switchy 8mph winds, we would have been at 1 in a hundred, or at best with lower winds, 1 in 50. Every MPH of full-value wind (if it was constant over every square inch of the bullet's path with a max ordinate exceeding 2,500 feet) would drift the bullet 26 feet.

Yes, 5 forward spotters in bunkers. In our testing, we discovered that fewer than 10% of impacts showed a dust signature. The walking-in that we did was 95% audible. I think I can spot a nice impact in dust within an inch or two accurately but audibly was a real challenge. We had a grid pattern, at 20 yards long, 20 yards short (directly under the line of sight) a bunker 20 yards left and 10 yards short, a 4th bunker 20 yards right and 10 yards short, and a 5th bunker 60-ish yards short under the line of sight. A big thanks to David Crandall for helping us with the testing of steel! The red tape you see was our center line. My wife Lynn had a grid pattern laid out every 10 yards to help spotters orient the sound of impacts.

This hit 3 1/8 inches from bullseye was kind of a situation where a ton of preparation worked out when we had the opportunity (somebody ought to make a cool quote about that), and we are NOT able to scientifically repeat it even 2% of the time. I suspect that when our record is beat, those good people will think of newer and better tricks and techniques and I hope they will share them so that yet another group of folks can beat them.

 

[snowpro440]

lets shoot some bb's at 400 yards next time to see if you can make the hit with a RED RYDER BB gun

 

[Fuj]

So the idea of the record is to see who can do it in the least
amount of rounds ?? Is there a limit to the size of the rifle
barrel and round ?? I would think this would be right up the
alley for the 20mm Anzio rifle.

 

[D Coots]

Thanks for the explanations NomadRifleman.

Every shot makes someone happy.

Later
Dave

 

[Benchrest Braxton]

“1mph of wind = 26 feet horizontal deflection at that range”.

I’m not sure what the final elevation input was, but I bet that canting the rifle even 1/10th of a degree is equivalent to multiple feet of horizontal/vertical error as well.

When you consider those things as well as all the other variables, 69 shots seems like a very small amount of shots to hit the target

**** Edit: I missed in the article where it said the final elevation input was 1,092 MOA. That is 88,539 inches in holdover. If we convert that, that = 7,378 feet, 2,459 yards, or 1.39 MILES OF HOLDOVER.

If you do the cant error calculation on that, 1/10th of a degree of cant = almost 13 feet of horizontal deflection…..insane****

**** Edit #2: i’m really curious now of the maximum height ordinance of the projectile. I tried running a computation in my kestrel but it maxed out at 5,500 yards. I’m estimating that the bullet was a minimum of at least 2,500-3,000 feet up in the air at one point. If you can get me a figure @NomadRifleman on that I would love to know****

 

[Delfuego]

I don't buy it.

 

[ebb]

According to my calcs 1 MOA at 4.4 miles 77.44 inches. That is 4.4 miles is 7744 yds so it is almost 8 times longer than shooting at 1000yds as most of us do and call it long range.

 

[Steve Blair]

The standard should be something like three consecutive hits in a half minute circle within ten minutes. Sixty-nine shots with one hit doesn't mean much. Take as many sighters as you like, but hit three in a row when you declare for record.