Need some lube advice!

[GSPV]

BTW, Ballistol works better than One Shot Spray, but is harder to get off. Some think that it smells like "powdered anal sphincter", but it doesn't smell that bad to me.

 

[BigDMT]

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I'm using rcbs fl dies just the cheap ones and hornady one shot lube ill check the decapping assembley for proper set up

That Hornady One Shot is JUNK. I bought a can and tried it one time just to see how well it worked. It went straight in the trash after the first use. Went back to using my Imperial sizing wax and never looked back.

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Which "Hornady One Shot" are you talking about? There is "Hornady One Shot" Case Lube in a spray can and "Hornady One Shot" Case Sizing Wax in a can. I use the wax and it works great. I have used the Hornady Wax and the Imperial wax and do not really see any difference. I have never used the Hornady spray can.
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Talking about the spray can. Don't ever buy it. Might work ok on pistol cases with carbide dies, but is completely worthless for rifle rounds. You have to spray a lot on the cases to get it to lube them properly, then it builds up in your sizing die and you have to clean it constantly. And no matter how much you spray on, it still doesn't lube the cases very well. JUNK.

 

[GSPV]

One Shot spray works. Just not in all applications. I use it for exclusively for several 1,000's of cases every year.

I wouldn't think to FL size a 30-06 case fired in a SAAMI dimensioned chamber with it. You'd end up with a stuck case for sure.

As with so many things, the right tool for the right job.

 

[walley2960]

RCBS case lube II wipe off with wet rag

I do this. If the inside of the neck is lubed when using an expander. How would you clean the inside of the neck? Is it necessary?

 

[BoydAllen]

I don't want the necks cleaned to brass inside. I run an old bore brush in and out of case necks a couple of times, and dip the neck in one of the Imperial dry lube media tubs, before applying lube to the outside of the case with my fingers. If the bushing selection, or neck ID of the die is right, this works just fine. If you are force to work with a one piece die that is too small in the neck, you are better off pulling out the expander assembly, using liquid lube in the necks (Q tip) and expanding with an expander die and mandrel. Of course you will have to remove the lube from the inside of the necks, but you will be rewarded with straighter brass.

 

[walley2960]

Thanks. I will have to try the dry lube.

 

[GSPV]

I don't want the necks cleaned to brass inside.

I used to clean my brass between loads just because I like shiny brass. I learned different. I like the inside of that neck nice and black.

 

[JORTZ]

Today I tried some imperial sizing wax and it was a lot easier to size but did run into another problem the die is not bumping the shoulder how much should I sand off

 

[BigDMT]

I don't want the necks cleaned to brass inside.

I used to clean my brass between loads just because I like shiny brass. I learned different. I like the inside of that neck nice and black.

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I just run a brush in them a few times. Never fully clean.

 

[BigDMT]

Today I tried some imperial sizing wax and it was a lot easier to size but did run into another problem the die is not bumping the shoulder how much should I sand off

What do you mean by "sand off"???

 

[BoydAllen]

First check to see if there is a gap between the die and shell holder at the point where a case that is being sized is at the top of the ram stroke, while it is actually being sized. Years back, using an RCBS FL die and my Rockchucker to size .220 Swift brass, I found that a die that had been touching the shell holder, with no case in place, had a .006 gap when at the top of a sizing stoke. Then, if you still can't bump, take it off of the shell holder, they are cheap, and the steel is not hardened. I would take off .005 and then check to see if you can bump. Just remember that a full turn of the die is about .071, so you need to take it easy as you adjust. IMO all those guys that talk about a eighth of a turn at a time need to do the math. Move as little as you can, and then test the result. It takes a while, but you stand a better chance of not running past the setting that you are looking for. Another tip, a setting that will bump a relatively new case, will not bump an old work hardened one that has been fired and sized many times, so verify your bump. I set my die up for every session.

 

[JORTZ]

Ok today I found my problem there was an uneven spot on the bottom of my die so I took some sandpaper and smoothed it out. Also my decapping assembly was too low and hitting were the depriming pin starts to taper up.
The crappy part of my day was I had 190 shells loaded and had to pull 150 of them apart because they would not chamber in my gun.
I want to thank everyone who gave there advice and help me figure this out.

 

[Ram]

Has anyone tried the Forster case lube? If so, how does it compare to the more commonly used lubes?

 

[GSPV]

Today I tried some imperial sizing wax and it was a lot easier to size but did run into another problem the die is not bumping the shoulder how much should I sand off

What do you mean by "sand off"???

He's talking about a situation where, even when the die is screwed down all the way, the shoulder isn't getting bumped enough. At that point removing metal from the bottom of the die or the top of the shell holder gets the case further into the die.

I have a set of shell holders that are progressively shorter. I got them in a trade, don't know where they were made. Very nice thing to have.

If it's bolt click and not shoulder bump, you can better solve the problem by having the back of the chamber polished out a hair.

Just my opinion. Take it FWIW.

 

[gotcha]

Ram, I got a free sample of Forsters lube recently & tried it compared to Imperial. The Forster liquid is quite thick & seemed to go on thicker. It required more "working" with the fingers to get a light even coat. Both products worked well for me. I just preferred the Imperial. In fairness I only sized about 4 or 5 cases w/ Forsters. I washed my hands thoroughly after using the Imperial so as not to cross contaminate.......Any one use Astrolube?

 

[Joe Maisto]

Ram, I got a free sample of Forsters lube recently & tried it compared to Imperial. The Forster liquid is quite thick & seemed to go on thicker. It required more "working" with the fingers to get a light even coat. Both products worked well for me. I just preferred the Imperial. In fairness I only sized about 4 or 5 cases w/ Forsters. I washed my hands thoroughly after using the Imperial so as not to cross contaminate.......Any one use Astrolube?

I small piece of cloth about 3 " square and a few squirts of 91% alcohol on the rag will remove anything you sized your case with. I use Imperial and carry a pint of alcohol to every match I attend.

Joe