Brians356
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How many people have gotten Ivermectin but refused standard treatment? (Standard treatment would embrace a lot of common and reasonable steps, such as oxygen and IV fluids.)
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I've been on a regime of quercetin, vitamin D, C , zinc and L-lysene since February. I was taking quercetin anyway for it's anti inflammatory properties and it's preventing of histamine build up during allergy season. L-lysene is an amino acid that acts to block other amino acids that spreads viruses through the body.
I have a friend that has 4 or 5 catch dogs from puppies to some really top notch dogs. i was over to see him about 25 years ago and he was giving the dogs Ivermectin. I can still remember hearing him talking as he went from kennel to kennel. "a little for the doggie a little for me, a little for the doggie a little for me."
Good question. I believe that 90%+ deaths are due to co-morbitities then the actual virus. Most Americans do not take good care of themselves, I for one. Mine and my wife's covid cases were mild as far as we believe. She's a Nurse and has experienced plenty of covid cases and deaths.
I lost two non-vaxed first cousins in the last year. Neither had co-morbidities. Both were in their 50's.
I have a good friend who's a retired orthopedist. He and his wife refused to get vaxed, instead relying on supplements. Both got very sick as a result catching C19 at their son's wedding. Needless to say, they've changed their opinion on the jab.
I have a good friend who's a retired orthopedist. He and his wife refused to get vaxed, instead relying on supplements. Both got very sick as a result catching C19 at their son's wedding. Needless to say, they've changed their opinion on the jab.
One thing to keep in mind is that this has nothing what so ever to do with politics! We need to follow the science on this issue. I have several friends refusing to get a shot purely based on politics. One ended up in the ICU for a week. The other is doing fine. I simply cannot stress this enough, "follow the science". Stay safe.
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Both my wife and I are and have been vaccinated. I thank her for bringing it home to me. She was completely garbed and masked and shielded..... my thoughts are more than just ailments of bad health and conditions.... drink, smoke, etc. When it comes down to the bottom of this I, you and the rest don't know. My wife and I have friends that had a 15 year old daughter drop dead during soccer practice. Underlying ailment no one knew anything about...especially her Drs.
Ron Gorski
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on his own. Had to go to the hospital because he took too much.
I'm fairly certain the severity of this disease significantly depends on your genetics. My mothers side got hit hard. I have an Aunt in the hospital today in AZ having trouble breathing and she has 2 doses of one of the "vaccines". Her son (adopted) got it and is unvaccinated is having mild symptoms. My uncle on the same side of the family who got it before any "vaccines" were out got hit pretty hard and went to the hospital for a couple days.
Very few on my fathers side got a covid "vaccine" and all have had mild covid responses when they got it.
My brother in law has it now. High fever for several days. Been taking vitamin C+D and zinc the whole time. Took ivermectin and fever dropped 2 degrees and energy improved the next day. Still plugged nose and miserable today 5 days later so hard to say what effect it really had.
I myself got covid in november 2020. Had a high fever and headache for one night. Then it was a plugged nose and sore throat that got better over about a week and a half. I ate a lot of oranges and peppers along with one big hot meal early in the morning. Dressed warm went for long walks in the sunshine when it was warm enough outside. Lost my sense of smell for 2 months. Skunks and gasoline still smell different.
I did not get a covid "vaccine". Nor will I for any reason because the government told me I had to, I doubt its effectiveness, and its long term side effects have not been studied. Pfizer and the FDA want to selectively release their covid vaccine research over the next 55 years. That's suspicious to me. My uncle was sterilized by agent orange in Vietnam. I try to learn from history so I don't have to experience it myself.
Too "mark of the beast"-esque for me anyway. I'll take my chances with the 99.9+ survival rate disease I already had.
You want it get it. I won't judge you for making your own decisions.
Very few on my fathers side got a covid "vaccine" and all have had mild covid responses when they got it.
My brother in law has it now. High fever for several days. Been taking vitamin C+D and zinc the whole time. Took ivermectin and fever dropped 2 degrees and energy improved the next day. Still plugged nose and miserable today 5 days later so hard to say what effect it really had.
I myself got covid in november 2020. Had a high fever and headache for one night. Then it was a plugged nose and sore throat that got better over about a week and a half. I ate a lot of oranges and peppers along with one big hot meal early in the morning. Dressed warm went for long walks in the sunshine when it was warm enough outside. Lost my sense of smell for 2 months. Skunks and gasoline still smell different.
I did not get a covid "vaccine". Nor will I for any reason because the government told me I had to, I doubt its effectiveness, and its long term side effects have not been studied. Pfizer and the FDA want to selectively release their covid vaccine research over the next 55 years. That's suspicious to me. My uncle was sterilized by agent orange in Vietnam. I try to learn from history so I don't have to experience it myself.
Too "mark of the beast"-esque for me anyway. I'll take my chances with the 99.9+ survival rate disease I already had.
You want it get it. I won't judge you for making your own decisions.
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L.Sherm
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So is it the ivermectins fault.
Ivermectin is like Brylcream...
A lil dab will do ya!!
The 1st week we dosed every other day for a week, then moved to once a week.
If traveling we'll take a dose before and after.
butchlambert
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What is standard treatment after contacting the China virus?
Are these breakthrough cases or unvaccinated?
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If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
Senior author of the study, Ali Ellebedy, Ph.D., an associate professor of pathology and immunology at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, pointed out that this assumption is flawed, stating in a news release:
The antibodies declined in the first months after infection, as should be expected, then leveled off to about 10% to 20% of the maximum concentration detected. In a commentary on the study, Andreas Radbruch and Hyun-Dong Chang of the German Rheumatism Research Centre Berlin explained:
Bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) also exist in bones, acting as “persistent and essential sources of protective antibodies.” According to Ellebedy, “A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” and it’s in these long-lived BMPCs were immunity to SARS-CoV-2 resides.
Levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (S) antibodies declined rapidly in the first four months after infection, then slowed over the next seven months. The most exciting part of the research is that, at both seven months and 11 months after infection, most of the participants had BMPCs that secreted antibodies specific for the spike protein encoded by SARS-CoV-2.
The BMPCs were found in amounts similar to those found in people who had been vaccinated against tetanus or diphtheria, which are considered to provide long-lasting immunity.
“Overall, our data provide strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 infection in humans robustly establishes the two arms of humoral immune memory: long-lived BMPCs and memory B cells,” the researchers noted. This is perhaps the best available evidence of long-lasting immunity, Radbruch and Chang explained, because this immunological memory is a distinct part of the immune system that’s essential to long-term protection, beyond the initial immune response to the virus:
If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life
If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.
Initial Reports That COVID Immunity Was Fleeting Were Flawed
Seasonal coronaviruses, some of which cause common colds, yield only short-lived protective immunity, with reinfections occurring six to 12 months after the previous infection. Early data on SARS-CoV-2 also found that antibody titers declined rapidly in the first months after recovery from COVID-19, leading some to speculate that protective immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may also be short-lived.Senior author of the study, Ali Ellebedy, Ph.D., an associate professor of pathology and immunology at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, pointed out that this assumption is flawed, stating in a news release:
The researchers found a biphasic pattern of antibody concentrations against SARS-CoV-2, in which high antibody concentrations were found in the acute immune response that occurred at the time of initial infection.
The antibodies declined in the first months after infection, as should be expected, then leveled off to about 10% to 20% of the maximum concentration detected. In a commentary on the study, Andreas Radbruch and Hyun-Dong Chang of the German Rheumatism Research Centre Berlin explained:
When a new infection occurs, cells called plasmablasts provide antibodies, but when the virus is cleared, longer lasting memory B cells move in to monitor blood for signs of reinfection.
Bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) also exist in bones, acting as “persistent and essential sources of protective antibodies.” According to Ellebedy, “A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” and it’s in these long-lived BMPCs were immunity to SARS-CoV-2 resides.
Long-Term Immunity Likely After COVID-19 Infection
For the study, blood samples were collected from 77 people who had recovered from COVID-19, about one month after the onset of symptoms; most had experienced mild cases. Additional blood samples were collected three more times at three-month intervals to track antibody production; memory B cells and bone marrow were also collected from some of the participants.Levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (S) antibodies declined rapidly in the first four months after infection, then slowed over the next seven months. The most exciting part of the research is that, at both seven months and 11 months after infection, most of the participants had BMPCs that secreted antibodies specific for the spike protein encoded by SARS-CoV-2.
The BMPCs were found in amounts similar to those found in people who had been vaccinated against tetanus or diphtheria, which are considered to provide long-lasting immunity.
“Overall, our data provide strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 infection in humans robustly establishes the two arms of humoral immune memory: long-lived BMPCs and memory B cells,” the researchers noted. This is perhaps the best available evidence of long-lasting immunity, Radbruch and Chang explained, because this immunological memory is a distinct part of the immune system that’s essential to long-term protection, beyond the initial immune response to the virus:
In addition, in 2020 it was reported that people who had recovered from SARS-CoV — a virus that is genetically closely related to SARS-CoV-2 and belongs to the same viral species — maintained significant levels of neutralizing antibodies at least 17 years after initial infection. This also suggests that long-term immunity against SARS-CoV-2 should be expected. Ellebedy even said the protection is likely to continue “indefinitely”:
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Everyone has their own opinions on the Covid thing. My wife (RN) worked at the local hospital nearly 47 years, quite a few in the ER and the last 15 on the Intensive Care floor and has been in the thick of this Covid mess.
She has done a lot of research and has firsthand experience with the patients with Covid. She informed me earlier this year she woke up and had no sense of smell which is usually an early indicator. She got tested and yes she had Covid, my Son works at a local Pharmacy and had to get tested and yes he had Covid. I didn't get tested but we all had the same headaches, sore muscles, loss of appetite, sinus drainage and cough. They felt cold but I thought the house felt too hot. About 4 days later it was pretty much over and life went on as usual although we all felt tired for a few more days. I'm 67, she is 65 and me eldest Son is 34. My daughter-in-law and youngest Son both had it, we also babysat my 3 year old Grandson 5 days a week which included our Covid time. He never got a sniffle.
None of us have gotten the vaccine, the Hospital mandated all employees had to have the vaccine or would be terminated. The date for compliance was November 30th, She turned in her letter of resignation and her final day was November 28th. She said nearly 2/3rds of their worse Covid patients had been vaccinated, an increase in strokes, blood clots and organ failure along with other conditions reinforced her decision to not get it.
I did have a close friend and neighbor that hadn't been vaccinated and died but he had other complications along with some things that could be considered malpractice or mistakes with his care. A good many of my friends have been jabbed thinking they are doing the "right" thing and a few others were blackmailed with losing their job without submitting.
We feel there is way more to the jab and masking thing than for our wellbeing. Plenty of resources on the Internet for both arguments but you've all heard it before "I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help". Read up on what these vaccinations do to your immune systems, people try to be too sanitary which isn't good for their immune systems.
People have made their decisions, hope whatever it is it works out well for you. We'll stick with our natural antibodies and the 13 times more protection than the vaccines based on the Israeli study. Haven't worn a mask yet, I refuse to due to their ineffectiveness but will consider a shield if I wish to visit a friend that may have a compromised immune system.
Take time to inform yourself, over a 99% survival rate if you get Covid but you'll be flipping the coin on the vaccination killing you and you still aren't immune to the virus even after all the jabs. Once you get them there is no "do overs", there is no long term studies or data as to side affects down the road to help in your decision.
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She has done a lot of research and has firsthand experience with the patients with Covid. She informed me earlier this year she woke up and had no sense of smell which is usually an early indicator. She got tested and yes she had Covid, my Son works at a local Pharmacy and had to get tested and yes he had Covid. I didn't get tested but we all had the same headaches, sore muscles, loss of appetite, sinus drainage and cough. They felt cold but I thought the house felt too hot. About 4 days later it was pretty much over and life went on as usual although we all felt tired for a few more days. I'm 67, she is 65 and me eldest Son is 34. My daughter-in-law and youngest Son both had it, we also babysat my 3 year old Grandson 5 days a week which included our Covid time. He never got a sniffle.
None of us have gotten the vaccine, the Hospital mandated all employees had to have the vaccine or would be terminated. The date for compliance was November 30th, She turned in her letter of resignation and her final day was November 28th. She said nearly 2/3rds of their worse Covid patients had been vaccinated, an increase in strokes, blood clots and organ failure along with other conditions reinforced her decision to not get it.
I did have a close friend and neighbor that hadn't been vaccinated and died but he had other complications along with some things that could be considered malpractice or mistakes with his care. A good many of my friends have been jabbed thinking they are doing the "right" thing and a few others were blackmailed with losing their job without submitting.
We feel there is way more to the jab and masking thing than for our wellbeing. Plenty of resources on the Internet for both arguments but you've all heard it before "I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help". Read up on what these vaccinations do to your immune systems, people try to be too sanitary which isn't good for their immune systems.
People have made their decisions, hope whatever it is it works out well for you. We'll stick with our natural antibodies and the 13 times more protection than the vaccines based on the Israeli study. Haven't worn a mask yet, I refuse to due to their ineffectiveness but will consider a shield if I wish to visit a friend that may have a compromised immune system.
Take time to inform yourself, over a 99% survival rate if you get Covid but you'll be flipping the coin on the vaccination killing you and you still aren't immune to the virus even after all the jabs. Once you get them there is no "do overs", there is no long term studies or data as to side affects down the road to help in your decision.
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Ron Gorski
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My friend made a lot of bad decisions at 75 year old. Tested + for covid and refused treatment. Took too much ivermectin, wife had to call 911 refused to stay in hospital. Wife monitored his O2 level and he went back to hospital and never recovered. Got ivermectin from some holistic doc.
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