Loaded Firearms In The Home

[ED3]

It seems very foreign to me to have a firearm hidden around the house not in a safe let alone loaded.. am curious do you guys have loaded guns around the house because you’ve had a personal experience with home invasion or do you live in an area that is partial to crimes that require you to have loaded guns ready to go??

Cheers Rushty

I've become much more vigilant, and keep my carry gun in close proximity at home since experiencing a burglary.
Police said they'd likely return.

Similarly, since experiencing some minor cardiac issues, I don't stray far from my cell phone.
I'm getting older, and more vulnerable;
criminals are getting more numerous, and younger, and evermore lacking in judgement.

 

[338 Mollett]

Your assuming the perp leaves without a sheet over them ?

Yes ! Shoot straight and often.

 

[ED3]

Then their family sues you.

As I understand my state's relevant law, the actor in a such a crime has no standing to bring a civil action.

 

[ED3]

CCW permits and "packing heat" are the latest fads in the U.S. gun world. I used to be able to count on one hand how many people I knew that carried. Now it's like, who isn't carrying. Been watching gun fads come and go for over 50 years. This is another one. Having said that, for business owners making night deposits or carrying large amounts of cash, those that must move about or do business in the ghettos and suburban drug dealers, it's pretty much mandatory.

Not sure "...latest fads..." is the way I'd describe the evolution of self defense/ gun laws....

 

[hogpatrol]

As I understand my state's relevant law, the actor in a such a crime has no standing to bring a civil action.

You may or may not be lucky. Everything depends on how deep are your pockets and the circumstances surrounding any event where a firearm is involved. I wouldn't bet my hard earned 401K on it. You shoot someone and your troubles are just beginning. Look at the police departments and individual officers being charged for shooting someone in the line of duty. In my state, a perp with a gun sitting in a wheelchair making threatening moves was shot and killed by police in adjudicated self defense. The family of the perp got a settlement from the city for 1.5 MILLION. Everyone's call but remember Johnny Cochran's quote, "You're innocent until you run out of money".

 

[KenOath]

Fair enough, I find it very interesting to hear your responses about protecting yourselves and your property/belongings the world is becoming a more unpredictable place... better to be safe than sorry!

Cheers Rushty

 

[hogpatrol]

Not sure "...latest fads..." is the way I'd describe the evolution of self defense/ gun laws....

Politics ebb and flow. Remember the "assault" weapon ban? I do and I remember the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth when it passed. How about the Gun Control Act? What do you mean I have to have the Feds OK my purchase. Like I said, it's a fad and it too shall pass as the political winds blow in another direction. Your graphic proves it.

 

[300_whisper]

You do you man. It’s your house, it’s your guns, just keep them away from dumb kids and be happy. Just be safe. I support your decision to have loaded weapons. If you ever have to use them, make sure they are facing you and you kill them.

 

[300_whisper]

Politics ebb and flow. Remember the "assault" weapon ban? I do and I remember the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth when it passed. How about the Gun Control Act? What do you mean I have to have the Feds OK my purchase. Like I said, it's a fad and it too shall pass as the political winds blow in another direction. Your graphic proves it.

Isn’t this a good fad though? Don’t you want people using their rights and getting involved in firearms? This isn’t a confrontational post or question. I’m sincerely interested and what to hear you further expand your point.

 

[SS427]

My grandma's advice was an unloaded gun is not even as good as a club in your hand. Better off with a baseball bat. I have one loaded handgun strategically located in my house. When I camp or put myself in an area where a criminal element is present, I have a loaded firearm close by.

 

[hogpatrol]

Isn’t this a good fad though? Don’t you want people using their rights and getting involved in firearms? This isn’t a confrontational post or question. I’m sincerely interested and what to hear you further expand your point.

I have no bias one way or the other for anyone else. It's a personal choice and each individual's business whether to carry or not, shoot to kill or fire over their heads. The gotcha in this is we are living in a highly litigious society and right, wrong or indifferent, I know that even if one IS justified, pulling that trigger can have devastating financial consequences. Just ask the attorney who will be at the perp's family's door the next morning.

 

[ED3]

I have no bias one way or the other for anyone else. It's a personal choice and each individual's business whether to carry or not, shoot to kill or fire over their heads. The gotcha in this is we are living in a highly litigious society and right, wrong or indifferent, I know that even if one IS justified, pulling that trigger can have devastating financial consequences. Just ask the attorney who will be at the perp's family's door the next morning.

No reasonable person uses deadly force on a whim.
I'm genuinely curious about this.
Can you cite a case where someone defending themselves in their home, and was not charged with a crime was sued by the criminal, or his family/ estate? ...the suit being successful, or not...

 

[300_whisper]

@hogpatrol what has America come to when a criminal can SUE you for endangering YOUR life...does no one have morals or common sense anymore?

 

[ED3]

Politics ebb and flow. Remember the "assault" weapon ban? I do and I remember the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth when it passed. How about the Gun Control Act? What do you mean I have to have the Feds OK my purchase. Like I said, it's a fad and it too shall pass as the political winds blow in another direction. Your graphic proves it.

I look at the map and see a 30+ year trend. Fads change with the seasons.

 

[300_whisper]

No reasonable person uses deadly force on a whim.
I'm genuinely curious about this.
Can you cite a case where someone defending themselves in their home, and was not charged with a crime was sued by the criminal, or his family/ estate? ...the suit being successful, or not...

https://www.protectamerica.com/home...-cases-where-the-burglar-sued-homeowner_14222

The first guy shooting was pretty reckless. Even if the burglar is a scumbag you can’t shoot him as he’s fleeing since he’s no longer a threat. Got it’s a security ad, but it’s the first thing that hits in a google search which is pretty scary.

 

[ED3]

https://www.protectamerica.com/home...-cases-where-the-burglar-sued-homeowner_14222

The first guy shooting was pretty reckless. Even if the burglar is a scumbag you can’t shoot him as he’s fleeing since he’s no longer a threat. Got it’s a security ad, but it’s the first thing that hits in a google search which is pretty scary.

The first story seems credible, and at least provides something of a location. Further the homeowner was, (and in my opinion should have been) charged. Shooting at anything less than a reasonable threat of immediate death or great bodily harm is usually illegal, and likely immoral.

The rest, quite honestly I'm more than a little suspect of, as they are lacking detail, and offered as part of ads for security systems.

 

[oneraggedhole]

We live in nc. In 2010 someone very close to me had 3 armed(with pistols) intruders in their house when he came home. His wife had been beaten and restrained to a bench, his very young son was taped into his car seat. When he came in, he was hit with a bat or pipe and knocked unconscous.
After coming to, he coaxed them out of the house (away from wife and child) and into his shop to give them the money they came to take. After opening the safe there were 13 shots fires mortally wounding two and leaving one wearing a bag and in a wheelchair. He was never charged for anything, never arrested but did have to give a statement after driving himself to the sheerifs office.
After 8 years, and about 214,000.00 later, he is still sued once to twice a year for punitive damages by the intruders family and the one mistakenly left alive. Still hasn't been ordered to pay the family a dime but still a very costly ordeal.
I'm pretty sure NRA offers some type of insurance for matters like this though.

 

[rebel]

I have no bias one way or the other for anyone else. It's a personal choice and each individual's business whether to carry or not, shoot to kill or fire over their heads. The gotcha in this is we are living in a highly litigious society and right, wrong or indifferent, I know that even if one IS justified, pulling that trigger can have devastating financial consequences. Just ask the attorney who will be at the perp's family's door the next morning.

HP, I understand exactly what you are saying. Folks should think about it, but it shouldn't give them pause about defending themselves on their own property. My sheriff is all about 2A and went on the the 50 mile away city news when an elderly man gave a punk both barrels - through the door - as he was trying to break in, saying he was defending his house and property/life. It really starts at the local level. Civil suits, however, are held no matter the state litigation and can cost a sh*tload, even if your in the right. Anyone breaking in my house will be armed, dead but armed, I guarantee it

 

[hogpatrol]

No reasonable person uses deadly force on a whim.
I'm genuinely curious about this.
Can you cite a case where someone defending themselves in their home, and was not charged with a crime was sued by the criminal, or his family/ estate? ...the suit being successful, or not...

From my previous post, the shooter was absolved but hurt financially by legal fees incurred in his defense.

https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/home-...-negligent-use-of-a-handgun-after-being-shot/


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/burglar-sues-calif-homeowner-90-who-returned-fire/

 

[300_whisper]

My buddy owns a farm in South Georgia and one of his farm hands attacked him over some kind of wage dispute. He was stabbed several times, and lost a kidney from the ordeal. He shot the perp with a .357 and the police literally followed the blood trail to the guy. He lived, but was sent to prison and my buddy hasn’t heard from him since. No legal issues either.

If you’re serious about protecting yourself, then join USCCA. They have an issurance program to provide you self defense lawyers in case you protect yourself. My brother is a member and used his pistol in self defense. Luckily the guy trying to rob him was smart and just walked away.