Labradar competitor coming

[coldboreshot]

Exclusivity is what sets presidence for justifying the price of the LabRadar. Is it truly worth the price versus manufacturing cost, don't know but if the Caldwell proves itself, I'm pretty sure the Lab will drop in price. Personally, I use the Magnetospeed. Only issues I have run across are slight changes in barrel harmonics when mounted and some mounting restrictions ( depending on the rifle platform). Otherwise, it has performed flawlessly. (And accurately against a buddy's Lab side by side).

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Not at all but its just like hawkeye losing 98% of their gun business over a $50 chinese borescope. Nobody buys quality they buy on price

I use my hawkeye multiple times every day. The teslong is not in the same league. The hawkeye has better resolution and will last my lifetime. After the ccp virus and everything else they do, Im doing anything I can to avoid any of my money making it to that country.

 

[std7mag]

Man i HATE the "buy once, cry once" BS!
Don't get me wrong, i'm happy for you.
I wish i had made proper career choices.
But i didn't.
So when something costs what my mortgage payment is, i have serious hesitations.
If there is a lesser expensive alternative, that works, i go for that.
Things that don't work get called out on pretty quickly.
And i just need things that work. I don't NEED all the bells & whistles.

Hence i won't be buying the new Velociradar. Because my Beta Master still works.

Now if they made a lesser expensive alternative to the RSI Pressure Trace, i'd be all over it!

 

[hoz53]

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lol yes because Caldwell high end stuff.

I dont have any caldwell stuff and for alot of years I just considered it all junk but I have to admit they are coming out with some decent stuff these days what with the target cam and now this. Ive got a lab radar and I have to say competition is good.

 

[Riesel]

I buy a lot of Harbor Freight tools but I don't make a living using them. If I used my tools to make a living you can bet they would be close to top shelf. However, top shelf doesn't always mean top quality.
When someone builds a better mousetrap for less money, there will be an interest.
Alex, I respect your opinion about the Teslong vs the Hawkeye, Your quality of workmanship and reputation
rely on that, you're not analyzing your barrel cleaning skills or getting worked up about a scuffy looking factory
Barrel. Happy New Year to All.
Riesel aka Robert

 

[tsyarnall]

Hopefully this turns out to be a quality product. The issues people report with their LabRadar's is what keeps me from buying one, not the price. I find the basic MagnetoSpeed to work great, but I understand its shortcomings as well.

Exactly........... I keep reading how the Lab Radar will (at times) pick up rounds that are fired to your left or right. I’d sure buy one if knew they were dependable. (Popcorn eating emoji here)

 

[Thauglor]

Exactly........... I keep reading how the Lab Radar will (at times) pick up rounds that are fired to your left or right. I’d sure buy one if knew they were dependable. (Popcorn eating emoji here)

What will stop this one from doing the same thing? That is the cost you have of using radar technology during a match.

If the new Caldwell one doesn't have that issue, then it won't be able to pick up bullets further out to confirm your BC. Nothing is free.

I don't own a labradar but when I used a friends, we set it up and was perfect without issues, even on our 22lr rifles. But competition is good, and I am hoping fx comes out with theirs.

 

[gdbleb]

Teslong is just a classic case of technology disruption. The new competitor is NOT equal in quality BUT is much, much cheaper and is just good enough. Over time the technology will improve to rival or even outclass the incumbent. See Clayton Christensen's books. That said, there's nothing to prevent Gradient from updating its own digital technology with kit that would be much better, more functional, and much cheaper. The optical components would still remain superior. Caldwell may be a similar scenario for Labradar.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Exactly........... I keep reading how the Lab Radar will (at times) pick up rounds that are fired to your left or right. I’d sure buy one if knew they were dependable. (Popcorn eating emoji here)

Ive had mine on real close benches and never read anybody elses shot. It has to get triggered from your bench then a bullet must enter the radar beam. Ive had some big guns on an adjacent bench and fired them at my target and not had it pick em up

 

[PatMiles]

Exactly........... I keep reading how the Lab Radar will (at times) pick up rounds that are fired to your left or right. I’d sure buy one if knew they were dependable. (Popcorn eating emoji here)

Never had this problem also and that was before I added a JKL gun mounted recoil trigger.

 

[Thauglor]

It is the first time I am reading about it too. The poster also didn't experience it himself, just read about it.

 

[whatsupdoc]

I have put thousands of rounds over my labradar, it costs nothing to run it and if I need to reference something its there if not I delete it. Many complain about it having issues with it but many have issues with a simple TV remote.

Guess if the import rules change you would buy a Norinco action rather than a US brand because its cheaper.

 

[clowdis]

Guess if the import rules change you would buy a Norinco action rather than a US brand because its cheaper.

No, but us gunsmiths would find a way to make it slicker, lap the lugs, square it up, get .240 firing pin fall, no "cock on close", and complain about the gap between the bolt handle and body causing less primary extraction.

 

[243Mendoza]

Labradar is sometimes quirky. It sometimes triggers off an adjacent shooter 20ft away but not from my rifle even when the unit is aimed at my target. The external 3rd party triggers are great for bolt guns but not gas guns, as the external trigger will trigger on closing the bolt. Even with a bolt gun supported by a sling when using the external trigger, just moving the gun in taking it off and on the shoulder will trigger the external trigger. The Labradar with and without trigger seems to be designed for benched bolt-action rifles which makes sense since it's designed in Canada.

 

[dannyjbiggs]

I use my hawkeye multiple times every day. The teslong is not in the same league. The hawkeye has better resolution and will last my lifetime. After the ccp virus and everything else they do, Im doing anything I can to avoid any of my money making it to that country.

Soooo...you think ya got a good one there! Regrettably, since last April, I have to go into my urologist office once per quarter for a cystectomy up the urther, to get a look at the inside of my bladder. Not pleasant, but here is how the first episode went down. I'm sitting there in all my glory while the urologist breaks out his instrument. I can't believe it, appearance is identical as my Hawkeye (except his has a straight eye-piece, and rubberized shaft). Shortly, the discomfort is over, and I remark, "That looks just like the Hawkeye that I use to examine my rifle barrels!" Urologist responds, "What did you pay for your Hawkeye?" Hoping to impress him, I reply, "$1,100.00." He retorts, "Mine costs $35,000." To which I reply, "May I borrow it sometime?!" He just looks away.

Dan

 

[memilanuk]

Interesting... since I always thought part of the reason that Gradient Lens charged so dang much for the Hawkeye was because it was supposed to be 'medical grade'.

Then again, it seems like pretty much anything normal that is repurposed/relabeled for 'safety' or 'medical' is automagically 3-5x the regular sane price, if not more.

 

[jelenko]

Man i HATE the "buy once, cry once" BS!
Don't get me wrong, i'm happy for you.
I wish i had made proper career choices.
But i didn't.
So when something costs what my mortgage payment is, i have serious hesitations.
If there is a lesser expensive alternative, that works, i go for that.
Things that don't work get called out on pretty quickly.
And i just need things that work. I don't NEED all the bells & whistles.

Hence i won't be buying the new Velociradar. Because my Beta Master still works.

Now if they made a lesser expensive alternative to the RSI Pressure Trace, i'd be all over it!

100% agree.
Also don't need to pay for quality that I won't use.

For me, a good example is a Mercedes vs a Ford. [I would use the Cadillac vs Ford example but I don't think there is any difference between a Cadillac and a Ford or Chevy except the Cadillac costs more and has more problems because they like to rapidly introduce 'technology' for the sake of being 'leading edge']

 

[Dug]

The first digital watch I know of was the Pulsar. About the mid 1960's. $325, or the price of a not too bad second car to beat around in. 10 years later, a digital with no other functions was 15 bucks.

Sets the trend for first run electronic gadgets.. Only fall into the first kid on the block if you must.

 

[46and2]

What will stop this one from doing the same thing? That is the cost you have of using radar technology during a match.

If the new Caldwell one doesn't have that issue, then it won't be able to pick up bullets further out to confirm your BC. Nothing is free.

I don't own a labradar but when I used a friends, we set it up and was perfect without issues, even on our 22lr rifles. But competition is good, and I am hoping fx comes out with theirs.

I will say, before I had a labradar I used ( and still have) a Caldwell prochrono ( the upside down one) I loved it and THE APP WORKED FLAWLESSLY. I've been round and around with labradar IT for a fix... I gave up. The main reason I wanted the labradar was so I could calculate my bullets specific BC. Otherwise would still be using the Caldwell.

 

[PRR1957]

Where is the Labradar made?

Are friends to the north, Canada.