I have a buddy that keeps showing me his sons one hole group with a 222. He doesn’t know that his son told me it took about 42 groups to get that one hole group ! Lol
Help with Fliers please !
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I have a buddy that keeps showing me his sons one hole group with a 222. He doesn’t know that his son told me it took about 42 groups to get that one hole group ! Lol
You’re a new shooter, learning skills, and frankly, that target ain’t half bad.
If you have no flags, or not allowed, better still.
If you have/use flags, it simply takes time. At this early stage ignore all the advise about loads, etc, etc, unless that target was shot in ideal conditions (never happens @300).
The fact that you said partly cloudy without paying very close attention can easily be responsible for a lot of that dispersion.
If possible try and get shots on target either under cloud or sun but shooting through both can often drive you nuts with elevation shifts.
If you have no flags, or not allowed, better still.
If you have/use flags, it simply takes time. At this early stage ignore all the advise about loads, etc, etc, unless that target was shot in ideal conditions (never happens @300).
The fact that you said partly cloudy without paying very close attention can easily be responsible for a lot of that dispersion.
If possible try and get shots on target either under cloud or sun but shooting through both can often drive you nuts with elevation shifts.
Forgive my ignorance , guess I don’t understand how cloudy or sunny can disperse differently . Could u explain please ?
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I’ll help you Mark, as your target indicates you were hammering the center very well dude... so when a darker cloud covers the sun you can expect a lower shot.... When the sky opens up and lets the sun in on your field and target, then mirage will lift what you see and you will shoot higher depending on intensity and ground moisture.
What you see is moving but where the target is physically is not moving. It’s one of the most misunderstood conditions by the majority of the shooters.
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Ok , I need to read this a few times ! Lol . Thank you
Mark I am trying to help you, not being a smart a**! If my rifle could not shoot groups like that at 300 yards in great conditions every time I could not play the long range F Class game in the company I shoot in. I do not test at less than 300 yards because distance gives you more information to work with.
I sure appreciate your help and am not saying you’re being a smart ass . But u have to admit that if your rifle shoots like that for 20 rounds , u would be the F Class champion of the world . I don’t know anybody at our range that can shoot 20 rounds even in perfect conditions , even with a 6BR , in a 1” group . That’s all I’m saying . Im not being a smart ass either and really do appreciate the help .
What bullet are u shooting in your 308 ? Most guys at my range including myself gave up on the 308 because the 6BR shoots so much better . I’d love to shoot my 308 but can’t seem to get the same accuracy and consistency that I get with the 6BR .
The X-ring on the 300-yard F-class target is 1.42" in diameter, not 1". Shooting a 6mm bullet, you can score 200-20X with a 1.663" centered group (>0.5 MOA). There are a hell of a lot of rifles capable of much better than that in good conditions. The IBS aggregate record (5x5-shot groups) at 300 yards is less than 0.6" (<0.2 MOA).
I never said the X ring was 1” . What I said was I didn’t think u could put 20 rounds in that same size group u put 5 shots in , which looks to be around an inch, every time u shoot . Im just here to learn . Sorry if I said anything I shouldn’t have .
Here’s a 3 shot (.25) 300 yard group i shot . So is it fair to say my gun and I can shoot 1/4” 300 yard groups ? Of course it isn’t . I got lucky ! Plain and simple . If I had kept shooting the real group size would have appeared ! That’s why from now on no 3 or 5 shot groups ! They are misleading !
That wasn't me.
A 1" 20-shot group at 300 yards would be very good but far from impossible. The IBS aggregate record (4x5-shot groups) is 1.2xx" at 600 yards.
The IBS score record at 300 yards is 250-12X -- that's a 1.5" 10-ring with a 3/16" X-dot that was touched half the time.
All I'm saying is that you're shooting groups roughly twice as large as possible with top equipment and skills. There's plenty of room for improvement.
Im going to have to work on my skills because I’m stuck with the equipment I have . I build my own guns , not just for money sake , but it makes me feel good that’s its actually MY gun I’m shooting and not someone else’s . And I agree that 1” group is possible , but it’s not a gimme everytime .
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