FREEDOM BENCHREST

[A.Thomas]

I guess I’m a little bit confused. So a match sanctioned by IBS can count as Freedom?

 

[David 0306]

I guess I’m a little bit confused. So a match sanctioned by IBS can count as Freedom?

The Freedom Benchrest Series for 2023 can be any organization or non organization. Its no cost to range or shooter .

 

[Dusty Stevens]

So, if you show up to one of those IBS matches, and youre an IBS member, do you automatically shoot a freedom br match just by default, or is it another signup? I know its free, im just wondering if you gather points from a 100 shooter match but only 50 are double signed up, do you collect points as a 100 shooter match or a 50 shooter match? Maybe youre first place freedom benchrest but 15th place in the ibs match?

 

[bugman]

So, if you show up to one of those IBS matches, and youre an IBS member, do you automatically shoot a freedom br match just by default, or is it another signup? I know its free, im just wondering if you gather points from a 100 shooter match but only 50 are double signed up, do you collect points as a 100 shooter match or a 50 shooter match? Maybe youre first place freedom benchrest but 15th place in the ibs match?

clear as mud...isn't it. lol.

 

[David 0306]

So, if you show up to one of those IBS matches, and youre an IBS member, do you automatically shoot a freedom br match just by default, or is it another signup? I know its free, im just wondering if you gather points from a 100 shooter match but only 50 are double signed up, do you collect points as a 100 shooter match or a 50 shooter match? Maybe youre first place freedom benchrest but 15th place in the ibs match?

If you show up and shoot a freedom Series match you will get freedom points simple as that.

 

[sdean]

The Freedom Benchrest Series for 2023 can be any organization or non organization. Its no cost to range or shooter .

I don't really see the purpose without some kind of shoot off at the end of season. Like Flcass points V2.

 

[David 0306]

I don't really see the purpose without some kind of shoot off at the end of season. Like Flcass points V2.

At the end of the series winners will be awarded .Its a points program and the shooters with the most points at the end wins. Just a different way to get shooters some more recognition.

 

[Tknotts]

For those ranges with pits this is how Whitehorse added sighter plates.All of this was done at no cost to the range. Our local community, contractors and shooters donated everything. Hopefully this will help you with ideas for you local range.

 

[David 0306]

Updated Freedom Benchrest Championship Series. WELCOME MSSA !!!

 

[Ga. Dawg]

Freedom Benchrest Welcomes:
Manatee
Vapor Trail
Red White and Blue
Western Colorado
MSSA in Memphis
More to come…..

Welcome aboard,
Mike

 

[Dgd6mm]

Freedom Benchrest as not even had the first Match yet and it's coming together nicely.
Congratulations FB.

 

[Alibaba]

Freedom Benchrest Welcomes:
Manatee
Vapor Trail
Red White and Blue
Western Colorado
MSSA in Memphis
More to come…..

Welcome aboard,
Mike

We welcome everyone.
Thank you
Al. B

Freedom Benchrest as not even had the first Match yet and it's coming together nicely.
Congratulations FB.

Dgd6mm
That’s a mouth full Thank you sir.
Al. B

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Maybe @JBauer will know the answer to my question on the previous page

 

[Ronnie milford]

Maybe @JBauer will know the answer to my question on the previous page

Dusty
only clubs that are signed up under freedom regardless if they shoot ibs gba nbrsa nra Williams port or just a local club match will get Freedom points what your asking about isn’t a possibility at all. The participating clubs will have to get their 5 freedom match dates on calendar before any points are awarded
Hope this helps
Ronnie

 

[JBauer]

So, if you show up to one of those IBS matches, and youre an IBS member, do you automatically shoot a freedom br match just by default, or is it another signup? I know it’s free, im just wondering if you gather points from a 100 shooter match but only 50 are double signed up, do you collect points as a 100 shooter match or a 50 shooter match? Maybe youre first place freedom benchrest but 15th place in the ibs match?

For 2023 we will track all available data, from any Club that chooses to share. We will take the best five matches of each shooter and assign point’s accordingly. The shooting year will end be prior to the IBS 600 and 1000 yard Nationals so we can award the End of Year honors at that time. For 2024 we will track Freedom members only for this same honor. Sorry for the late response, time with the grandkids takes priority

 

[Dusty Stevens]

For 2023 we will track all available data, from any Club that chooses to share. We will take the best five matches of each shooter and assign point’s accordingly. The shooting year will end be prior to the IBS 600 and 1000 yard Nationals so we can award the End of Year honors at that time. For 2024 we will track Freedom members only for this same honor. Sorry for the late response, time with the grandkids takes priority

I understand the family thing for sure. One question i was wondering about is the one about competitor numbers. You get points for total number of competitors, are you going to track every competitor at say an ibs match in memphis, regardless of how many claim to be in freedom benchrest, or do they declare that at signup they also want to be in the freedom benchrest points. In other words, if theres 100 competitors and the winner is a freedom br supporter, and nobody else there agrees with it and didnt sign up, does that winner get zero points or 99? This was in response to your points system reply earlier in the week.

 

[JBauer]

I understand the family thing for sure. One question i was wondering about is the one about competitor numbers. You get points for total number of competitors, are you going to track every competitor at say an ibs match in memphis, regardless of how many claim to be in freedom benchrest, or do they declare that at signup they also want to be in the freedom benchrest points. In other words, if theres 100 competitors and the winner is a freedom br supporter, and nobody else there agrees with it and didnt sign up, does that winner get zero points or 99? This was in response to your points system reply earlier in the week.

For the year 2023, We will apply our point system, which is identical to the IBS 600 system, to all matches available to us. It is an attendance based awards program. The system may exclude competitors if they choose not to be included. At that time, they would also exclude themselves from year end honors. They would need to let the Match Director know this, if that is their choice. At the end of the year of competition we will reward the highest point earner, using their best five matches, at the 600 and 1000 Yard National events. It is our hope that all competitors would like to participate.
Sincerely

 

[bugman]

Dusty Stevens said:
In other words, if theres 100 competitors and the winner is a freedom br supporter, and nobody else there agrees with it and didnt sign up, does that winner get zero points or 99?

For the year 2023, We will apply our point system, which is identical to the IBS 600 system, to all matches available to us. It is an attendance based awards program. The system may exclude competitors if they choose not to be included. At that time, they would also exclude themselves from year end honors. They would need to let the Match Director know this, if that is their choice. At the end of the year of competition we will reward the highest point earner, using their best five matches, at the 600 and 1000 Yard National events. It is our hope that all competitors would like to participate.
Sincerely

So, the specific answer to his question is........if the winner of that fictitious match was a FB member and the other 99 competitors were not FB members, then that match winner would get 0 points.
Most often the best answer to a specific question is a specific answer. unless you are an attorney or a politician.

 

[jvw2008]

I have a lot of respect for anyone who can keep an open mind until they truly understand an issue. I suspect that is a goal we all have - but sometimes it’s just real hard to do.

 

[JEFFPPC]

In all of my years in NBRSA Competitive Benchrest, I have seen two real “knock down drag out” events.
The first was the serious push to allow Tuners in the center fire formats.
Tuners were adopted.
The second was when establishing VFS as a Registered NBRSA class was proposed. Once again, the fangs came out.
VFS was adopted.

My point is, we worked within the system. There was a lot of push back on both proposals, but rather than “taking our ball and going home”, we worked with our Region Members, The Board of Directors, and came up with good presentations to help achieve a goal.

I came into Benchrest after the NBRSA/IBS split. As a new shooter then, it was difficult to fathom the visceral dislike that some members of the two organizations had towards each other. Regardless of the ‘explanations” that were presented, what it really came down to was hurt feelings and bruised egos.

At a time when both the NBRSA and IBS are beating the bushes for new members, starting a new Organization would seem counterproductive.

Only time will tell.

Jackie you hit the nail on the head. Where did what your talking about drive me. I no longer have a need to belong to any of the organizations. I support and shoot at local clubs with no National affiliations and am totally satisfied. Now they want to add new groups and split up the small number of bench shooters even more. Egos, that's the problem. I like the idea of the Tackdriver concept out on by a club, no affiliation required, but a match designed to attract those who wish to compete against others out of their normal area, or comfort zone.