Fclass Rifle Actions

[savageshooter86]

Nat I went with Kelbly Fclass action

 

[JRS]

Nat I went with Kelbly Fclass action

Good choice It doesn't get any better

 

[Paul Phillips]

Panda actions are doing very well in FTR and F Open. I spoke to Paul Phillips last week from Team Sinclair and they have NEVER lost a FTR match and have won the Nationals (6 times) and worlds. Paul informed me just as we know here at Kelbly's Aluminum actions shoot smaller than Steel or stainless. Paul and Team Sinclair switched to F Class Pandas and they shoot a new world record last month in the US Nationals. The aluminum deadens the vibrations. Those that use stainless are now using wood stock in short range and long range to reduce vibrations. If that works for Steel actions just think how much better a aluminum action is in a wood stock, oh yea Larry Barthelemy won Nationals and worlds in 2013 shooting a Stolle in a wood stock. Also the Stolle actions have the best fire ignition system, too give more consistent ignition from shot to shot.

As I have seen it the F Class Panda is winning alot of matches, and especially the big matches.

Look in short range a new world record was shot at 100 yards .008ths and this was with a Stolle Panda Action. Use what is winning and shot a Stolle F Class Panda

Jim

Jim,

Team Sinclair appreciates your nice comments and how proud you are of our team. I just wanted to make sure the information is accurate in your post. Team Sinclair has never lost a National Championship it has ever entered. This years Championship will make our 6th Title. In 2014 Team Sinclair set a new 1000 Yard National Record at the 2014 National Championships with a 792-38X. We broke our old National Record set in Raton, NM, 2012. All the members on Team Sinclair were also on the US F/TR team in which we helped the US F/TR team win the world championships in 2013. Team Sinclair member, Derek Rodgers, also set a new 1000 yard individual National record with a score of 200-12X this year at the 2014 Nationals.

I can say as a team, we have noticed alot better groups in load testing after we switched to the Panda action. I believe that this is what has given us the edge to stay on top and continue to break records and win Championships. Make no mistake, if we dont stay active in making our guns shoot the best we can, there are great teams on our heals to run us over if we get lazy. Team X men and Team Michigan are 2 of those teams.

Thanks again for your support and the best action money can buy !! 8)

Paul Phillips
Adjutant US F/TR Team

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Denys, I think your opinion will change if you measure some different rings and rail combos... with good tools. I've had a chance to check a "few" of these...about 50% of the samples are not perfectly aligned when you mate the rings to the rail. Lapping is a quick and easy way to get them right. Bedding the rings is the best solution if you are willing to take the time to do that. Assuming that something is straight simply because you paid X dollars for it is not wise in my opinion.

Sorry for the delay in coming back here. On Friday, I took my Panda F-Class-based F-TR rifle out a local range to see if everything was correct after it got one of its new barrels. I had removed the current NXS scope by the simple expedient of loosening the screws holding the rings to the dovetail rail and sliding out the scope. I knew from prior experience (see above) that the scope would slide out easily and it did; no binding. I put the scope back on from the other direction and just tightened the screws to 55 inch pounds and then went shooting.

Everything was fine.

There is ALWAYS something more that people can conjure up to do to their rifle, or ammo in the hope of getting better results. I love to ready about those obsessions, and their pursuit, by others. My philosophy is this; I buy quality components and assemble them to the best of my capabilities. If I have to alter something that should not be altered; there's an issue. In these days of CNC manufacturing, this should not be happening, especially with components coming from the same vendor. In my case, the rings and the action all come from the same place. If I would have to lap these rings, that means there is a major problem.

Jim earlier enjoined us NOT to lap his rings. There's a good reason for that. This is also why I am willing to pay extra for that peace of mind. This is also why I am fixin' to order a new scope and rings from Jim in the next little while and I know that I will not need to lap or bed the rings.

For most other setups, I am a great believer in the Burris Signature rings; those plastic inserts are just the ticket to mount scopes on rifles that are not built from top-notch components. I have quite a pile of those empty plastic bubble cases.

I do assume that top notch equipment is straight; if it's not, it's defective and it's going back because if I see issues with a scope rail, there is no telling what other issues there way be. I'm not going to spend time and money fixing something that is defective.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Denys, I think your opinion will change if you measure some different rings and rail combos... with good tools. I've had a chance to check a "few" of these...about 50% of the samples are not perfectly aligned when you mate the rings to the rail. Lapping is a quick and easy way to get them right. Bedding the rings is the best solution if you are willing to take the time to do that. Assuming that something is straight simply because you paid X dollars for it is not wise in my opinion.

Sorry for the delay in coming back here. On Friday, I took my Panda F-Class-based F-TR rifle out a local range to see if everything was correct after it got one of its new barrels. I had removed the current NXS scope by the simple expedient of loosening the screws holding the rings to the dovetail rail and sliding out the scope. I knew from prior experience (see above) that the scope would slide out easily and it did; no binding. I put the scope back on from the other direction and just tightened the screws to 55 inch pounds and then went shooting.

Everything was fine.

There is ALWAYS something more that people can conjure up to do to their rifle, or ammo in the hope of getting better results. I love to ready about those obsessions, and their pursuit, by others. My philosophy is this; I buy quality components and assemble them to the best of my capabilities. If I have to alter something that should not be altered; there's an issue. In these days of CNC manufacturing, this should not be happening, especially with components coming from the same vendor. In my case, the rings and the action all come from the same place. If I would have to lap these rings, that means there is a major problem.

Jim earlier enjoined us NOT to lap his rings. There's a good reason for that. This is also why I am willing to pay extra for that peace of mind. This is also why I am fixin' to order a new scope and rings from Jim in the next little while and I know that I will not need to lap or bed the rings.

For most other setups, I am a great believer in the Burris Signature rings; those plastic inserts are just the ticket to mount scopes on rifles that are not built from top-notch components. I have quite a pile of those empty plastic bubble cases.

I do assume that top notch equipment is straight; if it's not, it's defective and it's going back because if I see issues with a scope rail, there is no telling what other issues there way be. I'm not going to spend time and money fixing something that is defective.

If you assume the equipment is straight, you will never find out if it is defective, hence my suggestion to check it even if it's top notch.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

If you assume the equipment is straight, you will never find out if it is defective, hence my suggestion to check it even if it's top notch.

There is nothing wrong with checking and we all do that. Just don't lap those expensive rings for your expensive action.

 

[ljmontano]

but i have to look at the rifle at home