Electric Cars -- anyone own one?

[jackieschmidt]

Stephen, That is exactly why I am getting an EV, it will be my commuter car.

Two years ago, when I moved to Tomball, it meant driving 92 miles a day. I have a nice GMC Denali Pickup that I am simply putting miles on doing nothing but going back and forth to my Shop. It has better ueses.

 

[rwj]

Stephen, That is exactly why I am getting an EV, it will be my commuter car.

Two years ago, when I moved to Tomball, it meant driving 92 miles a day. I have a nice GMC Denali Pickup that I am simply putting miles on doing nothing but going back and forth to my Shop. It has better ueses.

Nice… but is spending $35K+ on another vehicle an economical decision in the long term?

 

[xr650rRider]

The new tesla semi just completed its maiden voyage- 500mi loaded to 81,000lbs. Supposed to start delivery in a few days. Its supposed to save the owner $500,000 over its life at sub $3 diesel. Imagine at $6 like in CA right now

On the TFL videos where they went to Alaska, they charged at a garage that operated an electric school bus obtained thru a grant. They had a higher KW charger with solar supplemental charging. He kept a detailed cost analysis on the system. With diesel at $6.00 per gallon it was costing double to operate the electric bus. He had even tried to add insulation to keep the heat loss from heaters during the winter. With electric semis, probably won't have to worry about truckers being awake for a long stretch. Drive 500 miles, then sleep for 3 days waiting on a charge.

 

[gkgeiger]

So many haters, most of us won’t even be around when there is no longer a choice.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

So many haters, most of us won’t even be around when there is no longer a choice.

Sir I wasn’t hating when I made a laughing emoji on your electric golf car post, just the opposite it made me laugh on the small size and cuteness of it.
I live in such a different world right now feeding cattle with a one ton pickup. All I see is dirt and mud, and a 2,000 pound bull has no problem butting his same size buddy into the side of your dirty pickup.

 

[gkgeiger]

Sir I wasn’t hating when I made a laughing emoji on your electric golf car post, just the opposite it made me laugh on the small size and cuteness of it.
I live in such a different world right now feeding cattle with a one ton pickup. All I see is dirt and mud, and a 2,000 pound bull has no problem butting his same size buddy into the side of your dirty pickup.

No problem, I wasn’t referring to you, thanks for the like. It’s just that most of the replies are negative. At some point we won’t have choice. At 79 I’m not concerned. And yes it is cute, has A/C, PS, PB, PW, and stereo. Has a range of at least 40 miles and recharges in a few hours.

 

[M-61]

From the New York Post:
President Biden’s rented Secret Service vehicles burst into flames in a parking lot Monday, just one day after he left his Nantucket vacation.

Additionally NYC apartment houses are required to post signs forbidding electric bikes from being parked inside building.

Of course these are all LI ion battery powered.
Get enough of these fires and it’s a short matter of time until your home owners insurance catches on and you find an increase in premiums or a letter saying they are dropping you.
Just my thoughts but those insurance companies don’t have big buildings by paying out claims.

 

[M-61]

To add to the above. It was five vehicles rented by the secret service and they all burned.

 

[rwj]

So many haters, most of us won’t even be around when there is no longer a choice.

No problem with alternate means of power generation nor use of electric vehicles. I do object to wide scale/forced deployment before the technology has matured and the infrastructure to support them is in place.

 

[rjtfroggy]

Look at this.

Fire shreds electric bus in Hamden

HAMDEN, Conn. (WTNH) – A CT Transit electric bus caught fire in the parking lot of the department Saturday morning, according to fire officials. The Hamden Fire Department responded to the li…

www.wtnh.com

Imagine if there were people on board.

 

[Jefferson]

did bidens security detail 5 Ev cars just catch on fire recently?

 

[M-61]

did bidens security detail 5 Ev cars just catch on fire recently?

Read up
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[Dgd6mm]

Alyssa Milano owns one. Matter of fact she used to own a Tesla. She recently traded into a Volkswagen EV.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Alyssa Milano owns one. Matter of fact she used to own a Tesla. She recently traded into a Volkswagen EV.

Thats funny. Gotta get away from this free speech bullshit and get a brand literally founded by hitler. Shes next level stupid.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Thats funny. Gotta get away from this free speech bullshit and get a brand literally founded by hitler. Shes next level stupid.

She thinks she's such an elite. The game has changed for her and them. She is one of the poster children for stupid. The 1st Amendment, it will bring the liberal left to their knees crying.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

She thinks she's such an elite. The game has changed for her and them. She is one of the poster children for stupid. The 1st Amendment, it will bring the liberal left to their knees crying.

No cry closets in the actual world. I had a contractor that had a kid on his first day on one of my jobs not long ago. Once they sensed snowflakeness they looked like drill sergeants on him til he left to cry. Took all of 5mins.

 

[hoz53]

My personal belief is that an EV makes a great second or third vehicle. I however live in South Africa, where our state owned power generator cannot supply the current electrical needs of the country, so the thought of adding EVs into the mix is disastrous, given that we are typically without power from anything from 2-8hrs a day.

I have been watching TFL and was interested in some of their fast chargers. 150-300KW. In nominal terms a excrementally large amount of energy. I have an 8KW inverter that take care of most of my electrical needs at home, but can see up to 10-12KW - grid supplemented - if heaters, geysers (water heaters - not sure what they are called in the US) are running. So 300KW is a massive, massive amount of energy.

If you have a charging station with a few of these, you are very quickly into the MW range, and now you are talking about needing a local substation, to say nothing of the additional power generation. I don't think a lot of people have thought through the electrical reticulation needed to support large scale EV adoption. Some work has been done in Germany where I believe they will need to add about 30GW of Nuclear to the grid if they proceed with banning ICE vehicles in a couple of years, and Nuclear builds are neither cheap nor fast.

I am a firm believer in free markets and economic forces, but not the billy club of government regulation and coercion. Elon has made a vehicle that people can choose to buy, but are not forced to. Many have made that choice, and good for them, but are they subsidised? I know that top gear's James May bought an EV, and Jeremy Clarkson was telling anyone near them that they had helped pay for Jame's EV despite him being a wealthy man.

As I understand it, Toyota is not pronouncing the death of the ICE just yet, and I believe they may well be looking pretty good in a few years, if these reports are true. I think EVs can be useful in many areas, and make sense for a good many applications, and the soccer mom is certainly one of those. If you live in Europe and seldom venture far from home, it may well make sense as a primary vehicle. I would be very wary of committing to one as a primary vehicle especially if you need to tow/drive long distances on a regular basis.

check this out- its a tesla supercharger out here at a rest stop on the freeway. nameplate says 500vdc — 350 Amp— i believe thats 175 kw— i know the charger doesnt have to use all that capacity to charge one car but it prob wouldnt be there (the capacity) if it wasnt needed—- thats enough power to easily power 10 houses most of the time. I used to be an electrician- looks like they will need me again.

 

[Dodge61]

Can someone explain why they cannot put an alternator or generator in these electric cars to get some real battery recharging?

A guy using "Engineering Explained" on YouTube has owned a Tesla 3 and has put a lot of free info abut ownership online.

Real good question, and I think this answers it. I'm not exactly sure about this, but some PE engineers will know. Big difference in a combustion engine turning a belt to an alternator, that in turn charges a battery that will in turn start the combustion engine. Than an alternator charging a power source that is powering the alternator.

Taken from Google----
perpetual motion, the action of a device that, once set in motion, would continue in motion forever, with no additional energy required to maintain it. Such devices are impossible on grounds stated by the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

 

[Jefferson]

Read up
Or search

I did and it is true

 

[moorepower]

Someone posted the photo of the battery price with install for a Chevy Volt and it was $24000 for the batteries. The car was either 7 or 8 years old, so it is a throw away car. I am not a Prius fan myself, but everyone I know likes them. As long as you understand that they are coal powered cars with Cobalt dug out of the ground by 4-6 year old African kids, that get cancer from doing it for $1 a day, and it won't be worth anything for trade in 5 years, go for it!