He's introduced VP Harris as President Harris more than a couple of times. Dr. Jill has done it too:
Electric Cars -- anyone own one?
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He's introduced VP Harris as President Harris more than a couple of times. Dr. Jill has done it too:
JayHHI6818
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The stupidity of this makes me laugh!!!
Ford Lightning towing test
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Ford Lightning towing test
Tow No! The Ford F-150 Lightning Struggled in Our Towing Test
We towed 3100-, 5300-, and 7200-pound travel trailers with Ford’s electric truck and didn’t get very far from home.
Coyotefurharvester
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I don't think the climate change crowd believes you should be allowed to use or own a camper,or a boat/motor,a firearm, enjoy a campfire, hotdog,steak or a smore. But hey, you can dream.
Its coming. I figure the family car we have in the garage, which is a '14 model, will be our last ICE family car. Its hardly driven outside a 50 mile radius of the house anyway. That doesn't mean I'm giving up on internal combustion engined vehicles though. I still have a V8 in my truck, our Corvette and a big diesel in our pusher motor home. I'll probably buy a new truck when I hear the last model with a V8 is in the showroom, but you can't stop technological change.
wedgy
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I hate to agree with her butt the answer seems rather obvious....
When you look at the environmental damage incurred in mining the rare earth metals, along with the lack of infrastructure, it makes no sense. We have NO control over the rare metal industry. China and Russia do... LNG and coal provide 88% of our electricity. So we will have no control over anything. EV's are a pipe dream at best, and will destroy our economy at worst. By the time enough charging stations come online electricity will be so expensive you can't afford it.
They want to destroy us, buying an EV only helps them. If you support them you are part of the problem not the solution. The mathematical thinking can't support it. I guess it still may be a free country, you do what you want.
Tesla's margins will shrink, watch the earnings reports over the next few quarters. It is a model that just doesn't work.
Common sense guys. I'll drive one only if Federal law requires it.
They want to destroy us, buying an EV only helps them. If you support them you are part of the problem not the solution. The mathematical thinking can't support it. I guess it still may be a free country, you do what you want.
Tesla's margins will shrink, watch the earnings reports over the next few quarters. It is a model that just doesn't work.
Common sense guys. I'll drive one only if Federal law requires it.
I'm sure their are plenty of people on here that remember buying their first auto, remember the one you paid for. My first was a '72 Chevy stepside with a 307 and a 3 on the tree. $500.00. Many used vehicles in my life mixed in with some new ones. Some new ones I paid cash for, but not before I was well established and had the coin. This Country is in for a big problem for thinking that anyone and everyone can afford an electric vehicle. As Jackie Gleason said in Smokey and the Bandit, as he looked up at the sky "What's the World coming too?"
Right now the only thing that makes any sense is a Plug In Hybrid. However, try to find one for a reasonable price. That extra price will buy a lot of gasoline.
The government is forcing electrical use down our throats and is but a matter of time before the price escalates. It is almost impossible to calculate the cost of operating an EV and the subsidies and marketing deals will all disappear in time. About the same time we get the news that it will cost a Trillion dollars to upgrade the grid.
Get ready folks, the "Great Reset" is in place and the countdown has started.
The government is forcing electrical use down our throats and is but a matter of time before the price escalates. It is almost impossible to calculate the cost of operating an EV and the subsidies and marketing deals will all disappear in time. About the same time we get the news that it will cost a Trillion dollars to upgrade the grid.
Get ready folks, the "Great Reset" is in place and the countdown has started.
Coyotefurharvester
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I known he wasn't driving an electric vehicle(of course). Could the Californians on here, explain what is the Highway patrol privilege card that Pelosi presented after his accident? When while intoxicated he hit another vehicle and injured the driver, is this why the local prosecutor won't release accident investigation details? I have never heard of a law enforcement privilege card.
wedgy
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It's a card saying that you donate to their cause and support law enforcement(kind of like a bribe ahead of time or a get out of jail free card but it and others are somewhat useless these days with the body cameras recording everything. I am actually surprised the case has not disappeared already. I saw Bruce Springsteen had one that got dismissed after he went to an AA class or two, in the interest of justice of course. I'm OK with it as long as I get the same treatment.
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NorCalMikie
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So.....the powers to be think that electric vehicle utopia is great. Read the article below.
An auto club in Germany that claims 21 million members ran some controlled charging test electric vehicles to see how efficient that process was. The results put another nail in the value coffin. Not only are they expensive to buy and own, but the average charge also wastes up to 13% of the electricity.
Put another way, the consumer is charged for all the electricity required to fully charge the battery, which is as much as 13% more than the battery can hold.
So, imagine pouring two gallons of gasoline on the ground every time you filled a 20-gallon tank. People would lose their collective minds. But that will be standard for every charge of every vehicle in the utopian electric fleet of the future.
ADAC’s Ecotest calculated the kWh needed to fully charge a range of electric vehicle batteries.
Line loss or transformer loss is baked into the infrastructure. There is no way to transmit electricity without waste (primarily) in the form of heat. Anywhere from 8-15% or more of the electricity generated by power stations is lost before it gets to you. A carbon footprint problem we’re supposed to ignore.
But not in the ADAC tests. The consumer pays immediately for the loss of every kWh that exceeded the actual electricity needed to charge the battery.
The ‘Electric Vehicles Will Save The Planet’ Farce Is Unraveling Quickly
- by Steve MacDonald
- August 21, 2022
An auto club in Germany that claims 21 million members ran some controlled charging test electric vehicles to see how efficient that process was. The results put another nail in the value coffin. Not only are they expensive to buy and own, but the average charge also wastes up to 13% of the electricity.
Put another way, the consumer is charged for all the electricity required to fully charge the battery, which is as much as 13% more than the battery can hold.
So, imagine pouring two gallons of gasoline on the ground every time you filled a 20-gallon tank. People would lose their collective minds. But that will be standard for every charge of every vehicle in the utopian electric fleet of the future.
ADAC’s Ecotest calculated the kWh needed to fully charge a range of electric vehicle batteries.
With electricity prices scheduled to double in New Hampshire (as an example) and with the cost of EVs still out of the range of most middle and lower-income families, throwing money out the window with every charge might just as well be another tax.
Line loss or transformer loss is baked into the infrastructure. There is no way to transmit electricity without waste (primarily) in the form of heat. Anywhere from 8-15% or more of the electricity generated by power stations is lost before it gets to you. A carbon footprint problem we’re supposed to ignore.
But not in the ADAC tests. The consumer pays immediately for the loss of every kWh that exceeded the actual electricity needed to charge the battery.
Coyotefurharvester
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Not might as well be another tax, it will soon be directly be another tax. Just as the Supreme court ruled on the Affordable care act(obama care), constitutional only as a tax. Taxation is the heaviest leverage against citizens, explains the 87,000 IRS employee expansion pretty well. June 1989, U.N. predicts numerous countries will not exist after 2000 because global warming is going to raise sea levels, flooding millions. News flash Obama's purchase multi million dollar coastal property(he doesn't even believe his own words, I guess because Marxists always lie).
Brians356
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Also, you must accept that your time has no value. I can add 500 miles worth of gasoline to my '92 Civic's tank in under five minutes. The Tesla Model 3 "Long Range" takes 12 times as long to add 70% that distance (358 miles) to its charge. But of what worth is an hour to a man?
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Brians356
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PS the way batteries work, the more KwH (range) you add, the longer the charge time. So extending the range is largely negated by additional time waiting.
You say "More gallons of gas pumped takes longer as well!"? True, but we're moving from 5 to 8 minutes pumping, not from 60 to 90 minutes charging. "Economy of scale"
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NorCalMikie
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And I read somewhere that the "Long Range" isn't quite as efficient as the standard??
Don't own one so don't be coming after me if I'am wrong.
NorCalMikie
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Then the ??? comes up, what if the battery gets run DRY (goes dead), does the car just roll to a stop? The wife asked me yesterday as we were driving 125 miles back to the city again.
I DO know of a lady that is THAT STUPID. Drove a Toyota Prius, ran the battery dead AND ran out of gas.
Just NOT the sharpest tool in the shed.
The same lady that asked me if she could drive her car (with 2 axel boots ripped open and no grease) up to Oregon to see her Mother? Didn't like MY answer so waited till the next day to ask the boss the same question. Got the same answer I gave her so I put a couple of new axels in for her.
I DO know of a lady that is THAT STUPID. Drove a Toyota Prius, ran the battery dead AND ran out of gas.
Just NOT the sharpest tool in the shed.The same lady that asked me if she could drive her car (with 2 axel boots ripped open and no grease) up to Oregon to see her Mother? Didn't like MY answer so waited till the next day to ask the boss the same question. Got the same answer I gave her so I put a couple of new axels in for her.
JayHHI6818
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NorCalMikie
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So your EV dies. You walk to the power plant to get a bucket of "juice"?? 
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