Just run your truck on free wood gas...even computer electronic trucks can be modified to run on wood gas...if ya live in a wooded area, there is free fuel everywhere...and you can flip on the fuel pump and run on the gasoline in the tank, if ya run out of wood on the treeless plains...check out the videos on wood gas trucks...this is not for everyone. But at $10 a gallon you may consider it.
Electric Cars -- anyone own one?
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Bronsin
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A former coworker of mine did some inquiries and finally bought some kind of hybrid car from Mitsubishi. It runs on the battery until it can't, then kicks on a gas generator to charge the battery. It only holds about 10 gallons of fuel. Hasn't had any problems with it as far as I know.
That being said, we may not have to worry too much about electric cars in about 10 years because the people in those Chinese cobalt mines in Africa won't be capable of working. Birth defects have skyrocketed, and people in the mines are dying hand over fist from all the heavy metals in their blood. They could also starve because the land isn't even capable of producing food from all the polluted water they are trying to raise crops with. I will post a couple of YouTube videos that shed a light on this for those interested. The greenies keep telling us fossil fuels are sustainable. Well, neither are electrics if this is what it takes to produce them.
That being said, we may not have to worry too much about electric cars in about 10 years because the people in those Chinese cobalt mines in Africa won't be capable of working. Birth defects have skyrocketed, and people in the mines are dying hand over fist from all the heavy metals in their blood. They could also starve because the land isn't even capable of producing food from all the polluted water they are trying to raise crops with. I will post a couple of YouTube videos that shed a light on this for those interested. The greenies keep telling us fossil fuels are sustainable. Well, neither are electrics if this is what it takes to produce them.
Never thought about the amount of space we would need for commercial charging stations. We don't' have the room for solar or wind farms, but didn't think about charging stations, always looked at grid capacity.
Take a look at presidential cabinets, things go south when they are non-businessmen. Obama's cabinet was only 9% businessmen. Trumps was 90%. Can't find figures on Biden's., but I'll bet it's <20%. You need to run a country like a business not as social experiment.
Take a look at presidential cabinets, things go south when they are non-businessmen. Obama's cabinet was only 9% businessmen. Trumps was 90%. Can't find figures on Biden's., but I'll bet it's <20%. You need to run a country like a business not as social experiment.
NorCalMikie
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California Asks Residents To Avoid Charging Electric Cars ...
Too hot, not enough power?
Well, we knew that was coming.
Saw a little bit on EV's in California.
Used prices going way down.
They're not working out like most would think.
Too hot, not enough power?
Well, we knew that was coming.
Saw a little bit on EV's in California.
Used prices going way down.
They're not working out like most would think.
NorCalMikie
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And again, CALIFORNIA'S ELECTRICAL GRID HAS AN EV PROBLEM? No S**T Sherlock!!
You can own one (an EV) but you can't charge it.
Don't forget to get one (an EV) with a trailer hitch so you can tow that generator big enough to charge your EV in less that 48 hours.
You can own one (an EV) but you can't charge it.
Don't forget to get one (an EV) with a trailer hitch so you can tow that generator big enough to charge your EV in less that 48 hours.
We'll just start putting Tri Pacs on them. At least then you'll have some A/C or heat while you sit and charge.
NorCalMikie
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Whisky Tahoe Foxtrot
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In some cases an electric vehicle correctly configured and connected can provide a storage capacity for a solar home. The Ford Lightning is making this technology available. A house with solar capability needs to be disconnected from the grid when the grid is down* UNLESS there is a switch to bypass the grid and connect an alternate power source like a generator or storage batteries.
The Tesla power station for homes is not only expensive but has a fraction of the capacity that the Ford Lighting has. You would have to buy 7 power stations to equal the capacity of a Lightning and you still wouldn't have what the Lightning provides aka a vehicle.
Yes the Lightning is made with large chunks of "unobtanium", for now. At least there is plan.
Short term the solar back up solution that reliable is a fuel powered generator.
* utility companies require grid connected solar systems to be shut down when the grid is down to protect the workers trying to repair the grid.
The Tesla power station for homes is not only expensive but has a fraction of the capacity that the Ford Lighting has. You would have to buy 7 power stations to equal the capacity of a Lightning and you still wouldn't have what the Lightning provides aka a vehicle.
Yes the Lightning is made with large chunks of "unobtanium", for now. At least there is plan.
Short term the solar back up solution that reliable is a fuel powered generator.
* utility companies require grid connected solar systems to be shut down when the grid is down to protect the workers trying to repair the grid.
Brians356
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Long term the backup solution is a fuel-powered generator. There, fixed it for ya.
Nearly everyone reading this will be long gone before anything like a civilization will survive without fossil fuel or nuclear power - if ever. Unless the goal is a "post-modern" society, i.e. living in caves again, scrounging for food.
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NorCalMikie
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Funny that we're not hearing "owner comparison" of costs between gas from the pump and your home charging electric bill. Seems like mileage is something like 250 miles per charge? How much $$$ for a full charge? Forget the "time" involved. 
At this stage in the game, probably less $$$ for a fill up at the gas station? Unless you're in California. But we get that "special blend" or is it that special bend over? 
One thing that I've seen lately is the guaranteed life of the battery on NEW Toyotas is something like 15 years (?) or 150K miles. (?) Need to double check those figures.
But nothing is said about any recycle charge? And at something like 1000 pounds per, not so much a DYI thing.
At this stage in the game, probably less $$$ for a fill up at the gas station? Unless you're in California.
But we get that "special blend" or is it that special bend over? One thing that I've seen lately is the guaranteed life of the battery on NEW Toyotas is something like 15 years (?) or 150K miles. (?) Need to double check those figures.
But nothing is said about any recycle charge? And at something like 1000 pounds per, not so much a DYI thing.
FNSafari
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One of the things that intrigues me about a Tesla or any other plug in is how does the range get affected by having to run the air conditioner in the summer or the heater and defroster in the winter? That info seems to be missing on the tesla website, only giving what I think is the best case range. Is that best case range determined in a dyno or in the real world? Range in the flatlands of west texas would be greater than in the mountains of west virginia one would think.
XTR
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If you like cars that go quick do a search and check out the Factory 5 818 kit that some guys in Canada put 2 Chevy Volt batteries in hooked up to a Tesla twin motor system. Very light sports car that does 9s in the quarter.
It’s barely got room for a change of underwear in it, so range isn’t too bi* a deal. Looks like a ton’o fun.
Electric 818c
It’s barely got room for a change of underwear in it, so range isn’t too bi* a deal. Looks like a ton’o fun.
Electric 818c
"A couple over the last five years..." is a contradictory benchmark to the statement "holding up well."
My brother purchased a Prius in 2010. It has over 160k miles, and is still on the original battery. He said it was the lowest TCO and most reliable car they have ever owned. It still averages 50 mph, but he does envy my motorcycles....
dellet
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A battery is a battery, is a battery.
They only can store a certain amount of energy. A triple A battery can power a single LED lamp for a few days, or a hair dryer on full speed/hot for a few minutes. A Tesla is no different.
A customer with a Tesla attempted to drive through Glacier park a couple summers ago. Attempted is the Key word.
It’s 30 miles of uphill, stop and go traffic in 80-90 degree temps, with an elevation change of about 3000 feet. There are some decent grades to pull. Average speed in the steepest, most scenic parts can be 5 MPH or less. A bit over 4 hours to travel the road and an unplanned stay at ST Marry’s On the east side to recharge.
The other problem with electric vehicles is the amount of tech garbage that seems to go with the package. The new Ford electric F150 is advertised to have more features than a Tesla. The “chip count” is over 3000, yes, three thousand chips.
When the battery life of an Electric vehicle is challenged, the answer is always “just wait a bit, the technology is changing fast”. That’s the same Techy answer that people were fed about laptops and cell phones. Now the batteries last 10 years and the technology lasts 3 and they are considered disposable at 5.
There should be a law that says the technology and support has to last at least 3 years longer than the loan to buy the product.
xr650rRider
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Real world trailer towing test with Ford Lightning.
Dusty Stevens
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I did relate my experience early on in this post but nobody wanted to hear it.Funny that we're not hearing "owner comparison" of costs between gas from the pump and your home charging electric bill. Seems like mileage is something like 250 miles per charge? How much $$$ for a full charge? Forget the "time" involved.
At this stage in the game, probably less $$$ for a fill up at the gas station? Unless you're in California.
One thing that I've seen lately is the guaranteed life of the battery on NEW Toyotas is something like 15 years (?) or 150K miles. (?) Need to double check those figures.
But nothing is said about any recycle charge? And at something like 1000 pounds per, not so much a DYI thing.
A plug in hybrid is the only EV that makes sense to me. Now that the volt is gone toyota is making a prius plug in hybrid. That way i can drive 1000mi without charging if i have to. I can get stuck in traffic for 5hrs and not have to have a tow. I would run it on gas and plug it in to free chargers. The US is not ready for everybody to get plug in cars, no matter what the idiots say. They want everybody off of fossil but havent offered me a solution to keep your lights on as we do that (and thatll take many many years if they opened the checkbook today)
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